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We want to describe how we can live now, how we can live the world we dream of. We want propaganda of the deed: that is to say, we want to live as anarchists, as sustainably and as freely as we can, and have those actions speak loudly. This isn’t about back-to-the-land, for many or most of us. This is about varied solutions for varied environments: what works in the cities, and what works in the forests? What works for families with children, and what works for travelers? What works for us scattered groups here and now, and what would work for entire revolutionary cities or post-collapse populations? Post-Civilized, as a journal, will be propaganda, but it will also be a manual of skills for living a post-civilized life. And obviously, we can’t do it without you contributing what you know. contribute [a] postcivilized.net |
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"Post-Civilized will be--we
"Post-Civilized will be--we expect--how-to heavy, theory light, and useful to a wide range of sustainability activists."
While I realize that it is practically impossible to adopt an "anti-activist" perspective, I think that any journal adopting a perspective that is critical of civilization shouldn't be throwing around the word "activist" unless it is meant to be at least partially ironic. "Activists" are, after all, still bound up in a "political" discourse who's general tendency is towards reconciliation with global capital. I am hoping that, in popularizing the concept of "post-civ," the importance of "ANTI-civ" is not forgotten. While the positive face of the anarchist project determines it's ultimate nature, the negative face ensures a total rupture with the the present historical 'moment.'
-postnihilist
"Green anarchists are
"Green anarchists are rethinking primitivism".
Really? Says who?
"Red anarchists are embracing radical sustainability"
What is 'radical sustainability'? Does that mean red anarchists want civilization to be radically sustained...indefinitely?
"Post-Civilized will be--we expect--how-to heavy, theory light, and useful to a wide range of sustainability activists."
I guess this means the triumph of doing stuff for the sake of doing stuff, over carefully thought out reasons for doing them. I also agree with the other commentor's concern about the word 'activist'.
"We want to describe how we can live now".
But isn't this completely different from how we would live in a 'Post-Civilized' world? And isn't that the point? It's like prisoners describing to each other how they live and resist now, and how they would live on 'the outside' once they get released.
"This isn’t about back-to-the-land, for many or most of us. This is about varied solutions for varied environments: what works in the cities, and what works in the forests? What works for families with children, and what works for travelers? What works for us scattered groups here and now, and what would work for entire revolutionary cities or post-collapse populations?"
Sounds fine. But what does it mean to say some strategy or other 'works'? Does it mean it weakens capitalism, or civilization, or the state, etc, or just that that all these social forces and institutions haven't found you yet..?
Cartoon: "Which are the post-civilized? Cuz they look pretty damn similar to me."
Exactly.
I think this project needs to be tweaked and re-thought, before trees begin to die in its name.
"I guess this means the
"I guess this means the triumph of doing stuff for the sake of doing stuff, over carefully thought out reasons for doing them."
For teh lulz
The only reason to take out Civilization.
These are excellent posts
These are excellent posts and strike at the core of the meaning of life in the civilized world.I think the greatest hindrance to change and the acceptance of alternative lifestyles is pride and fear,both symbiotic manifestations of the dissolution of basic faith in human goodness and optimism for the future.The system has created a negative mass mindset (democracy is oppression)that self-perpetuates itself through the education system and media.A pride in private property acquisition,and a fear of death,and their juxtapositions , a fear of losing private property and the acquisition of everlasting life(denying death due course),are the methods of control most authoritarian systems have used over the ages.A massive emotional blackmail racket in layman terms.I have been there with my family wanting shelter and not wanting children turned out onto the cold street.I have succumbed to the pressures and been enslaved by the system in the past.I had to get out of the system by gambling with death,I dont know what the odds are,but I,ve seen the bright light at the end of the tunnel twice,its cool. mountainman
This sounds great! Where do
This sounds great! Where do good lame ass liberals sign up to contribute? Oh... contribute[a]postcivilized.net. Awesome! Now that I have an email address and a forum to write some stuff about how to cope with civilization killing everything on the planet, I sure can feel better about myself and my "sustainable" use of technology. Ahhhh... feel better already. I love science fiction and post-civilized fantasy!
I like the sound of this new
I like the sound of this new beginning - it'll be so cool.
It'll be like floating around shutting down a HAL 9000 series computer. We can leave the basic functions of the ship - such as the welfare state still functioning on auto-pilot.
Or it'll be like Lawrence of Arabia helping take out the last Turkish empire.
Or Makhno defeating the Austrians and helping liberate the Ukraine.
Or Durruti at the battle of Barcelona.
It's gonna be awesome
"An eco-anarchist future
"An eco-anarchist future that recognizes that 6+ billion people aren’t going away anytime soon."
Peak oil will pull the plug on industrial agriculture, which most people are dependent upon...
Overshoot means we are destroying our landbase...
Even moderate climate change means extra breeding times for "pests", which would translate into perhaps a thousandfold increase in things like mosquitos, locusts, rats, topping out at however much agricultural land is left...not to mention destroying the crops as weather patterns change...
50% of US topsoil has been destroyed since the European imperialists brought their curse to the Americas...
150-200 species per day are forced into extinction, 90% of all fish in the ocean & 80% of all krill have been killed in the last 50 years...
There's massive toxification of the planet...
There's addiction to industrial medicines that can't be sustained...
There's resource wars as the system caves in on itself...
Billions of people will most likely die fairly rapidly. Soon. Permaculture/horticulture, foraging, nanotechnology, whatever you want to throw at it, billions of people are still going to die. It makes me miserable, and I am going to help as many people as I can transition to a sustainable way of life as quickly as possible, but that doesn't change things.
-AutumnPhoenix
How can you tell someone is
How can you tell someone is an 'anarcho'-primitivist? it says so on their blog. bahahahaha
It certainly does. Also we
It certainly does. Also we can add comic book, album, novel, Myspace, Facebook, philosophical treatise, manifesto, etc.
I'm glad you find the deaths
I'm glad you find the deaths of billions of humyn beings funny.
Also, thanks for the 'anarcho' bit, really, I'm not a Marxo- or Monarcho- Primitivist, I really do fucking hate all hierarchical power structures.
Checkmate on the blog though - Anticiv.net
-Autumn Phoenix
You can't have manslaughter
You can't have manslaughter without laughter. XD
--ανομος
it was meant as
it was meant as quote-unquote, as in not really. sarcasm
It's near impossible to
It's near impossible to detect sarcasm in this mediated, emotionless, atonal text-form of communication, so sorry if I misinterpreted your response. Many times we get told that we aren't real anarchists, and it's frustrating.
-AutumnPhoenix
thats what i was saying. yer
thats what i was saying. yer not
Sounds like this is the
Sounds like this is the desire to get everyone on board with a new ideology while being purposefully vague on what it all means.
"what would work for entire revolutionary cities or post-collapse populations?"
Entire revolutionary cities? Does that take cities as a given then?
"An eco-anarchist future that recognizes that 6+ billion people aren’t going away anytime soon."
So you believe that civilization is going to collapse but that people aren't going to die because of it? Ignoring the overshoot of carrying capacity isn't going to help it so less people die, it's only going to make it worse.
-Makwa