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Call Out for Anti-2010 Olympics Solidarity! Oct 29th-31st 2009
Between October 29-30th, (and beyond) we welcome acts of solidarity in the form of whatever makes the most sense for your context. From everywhere in the world let these acts strengthen our common rebellion! Information about the Torch Relay: A convergence is scheduled in Victoria, British Columbia to counter the launch of the cross-Canada torch relay. The 2010 Olympic Flame will be lit in Greece on Oct. 22, 2009 and handed over to a representative of Canada, in Athens on Oct. 29 before coming to Canada - (if it makes it that far!). The torch relay of modern times which transports the flame from Greece to the various designated sites of the games had no ancient precedent. The torch was introduced at the Hitler's 1936 Berlin Olympics to spread the spirit of fascism throughout Europe. Still, the torch is a symbol to spread the ideologies of nationalism, colonization and economic progress. The cross Canada Olympic torch relay begins in Victoria BC, Coast Salish Territory, the morning of October 30. It will spend five days on Vancouver Island before flying to the Yukon, crossing the Northern region of the country to the Atlantic coast, then proceed westward across all provinces, to arrive in Vancouver for the opening ceremonies on Feb. 12, 2010. The relay will last 106 days and cover 45,000 km. It will pass through 1,000 communities. If you want, please send any solidarity acts to: a.solidarity2010@gmail.com http://victoriatorch.wordpress.com http://no2010.com/node/1053 For Reading and Distribution (printable pfd's): HITTING THE WHOLE OLYMPIC TARGET (new): RIOT 2010? RIOT NOW! ANTI-2010 BOOKLET |
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If you idiots try to steal
If you idiots try to steal the Olympic torch I hope one of the women beats you with it. You anarchists are genetically inferior to the Jamaican bobsled team. You're shit, no one cares about your riot tourism. Just stay home and let the worlds best athletes have their competition. It's better than anything you all could offer.
Well, I am Canadian, so can
Well, I am Canadian, so can I stay home and riot?
That's what everyone should
That's what everyone should do,the revolution begins at home,usually in the kitchen,turning a wooden spoon in a bowl of gruel :)
This is the problem with
This is the problem with most of the systems robotic ants, they like their olympic games and they like their little 9-5 jobs. Their heads are too small to understand anarchy, they enjoy being 'looked after' by the system, how would they care for themselves if the state didn't tell them what to do? Who would teach them right from wrong? How would we eat without supermarkets? How would we entertain ourselves if it wasnt for advertising or tv screens or new things to buy? Your comment just proves what we as anarchists are up against, why compare anarchy to a jamaican bobsled team? We will stay at home, away from the eyes of big brother and plan, plan plan, because one day the people will reclaim the streets and hopefully most of you competetive power hungry ants will crumble along with the system, we don't need you.
ANARCHY IS FREEDOM
by continually talking down
by continually talking down to people, though, we anarchists continue to become a smaller and smaller group of more radical than thou scene without any real connection to the majority of the world's people.
It's a scene and an arms
It's a scene and an arms race!
agreed. i'm new to this site
agreed. i'm new to this site but just looking around i feel as though there are more flamewars going on than meaningful content. doesn't make me feel very connected and i actually agree with most of what's being said in the articles, just imagine how detached it would make an outsider feel.
"by continually talking down
"by continually talking down to people, though, we anarchists continue to become a smaller and smaller group of more radical than thou scene without any real connection to the majority of the world's people."
there is a difference between talking down and being critical, even ferociously critical. i try to temper my biting remarks with understanding when i am simply being critical and not so much when i am just being an asshole, this is how you can usually tell with me. at any rate, as i have said many a time, i think that critique is probably the best function that the internet can serve for us: the posting and challenging of all our theoretical ideas to give us more food for thought when it comes to acting on them. unless one has good hacking skills i do not entertain the notion of the internet as some sort of vehicle for revolution and most certainly not as any kind of actual community (it lacks the whole face to face thing and all...).
Yes, people like their 9-5
Yes, people like their 9-5 jobs and supermarkets. Especially in comparison to the utopian anarchist alternative, which is a revolution - which is going to occur, how, exactly? - and then... ummm, stuff?
ANARCHY IS VAGUE MEANINGLESS SLOGAN SHOUTING
And, as the other reply notes, your laughably condescending reply is hilarious for a political system that claims to be all about people empowering themselves - except, you know, if they're too fucking stupid, according to you, who knows everything.
you can always spot a narc
you can always spot a narc or an agent because they are always professional quippers, they sound like an annoying episode of Seinfeld (are any not annoying) because they spend their entire lives protecting pirates and disrupting people's lives for a lie. It makes them funny, pathetic, and easily recognizable.
Wow. Take off the tin-foil
Wow. Take off the tin-foil hat and come join us in the real world when you're ready, k? You don't have to be a government agent to be critical of anarchism; it's got plenty of stupid to go around.
The fact that you answer criticism with paranoid lunacy speaks volumes about the arguments you have to present.
Or maybe you're late for your 9/11 Truth meeting. Teh Alienz did it!!!!
I agree. Can people that
I agree. Can people that keep posting these comments about "agent provocateurs" "narcs" "government agents" and so on, stop?
"I agree. Can people that
"I agree. Can people that keep posting these comments about "agent provocateurs" "narcs" "government agents" and so on, stop?"
yeah, it is just flat out stupid. i picture the foil hat at the other end of those posts. i mean, shit, yeah, you never fully trust anyone unless you know them well and they are "on the inside" of your own shit or whatever...but it is a really long leap from this to the sort of wing nut shit i have been seeing these people say. basically, what i have been noticing with these types, is that everyone who says something they do not agree with is an agent provacture, narc, government agent et al. this is just fucking careless! to call someone a snitch carries heavy consequeneces if it is believed, this is not a label you throw around carelessly, you need some body of evidence to throw this around unless you are a total ass, and i say this as one who has been so jacketed in the past (fortunately the credibility of the guy who believed the other person wasn't exactly solid, as to the original source of these accusations i do not know who the fuck they are or why they thought of me this way).
"you can always spot a narc
"you can always spot a narc or an agent because they are always professional quippers, they sound like an annoying episode of Seinfeld (are any not annoying) because they spend their entire lives protecting pirates and disrupting people's lives for a lie. It makes them funny, pathetic, and easily recognizable."
why thank you for reviling the signs, oh great one! seriously, so people who are good at quips = narcs? first prize for lunatic idiocy, i award you a gold plated tin foil hat and sit you high upon your throne as king or queen of the wingnuts or whatever, it is kinda like when the pope met with charlamange.
no, in truth, if they are good, there is not always an easy way to spot a narc, but sometimes there is. situations vary and there is no universal criterion on which to judge these things, there is only evidence or the lack of evidence.
"This is the problem with
"This is the problem with most of the systems robotic ants, they like their olympic games and they like their little 9-5 jobs. Their heads are too small to understand anarchy, they enjoy being 'looked after' by the system, how would they care for themselves if the state didn't tell them what to do? Who would teach them right from wrong? How would we eat without supermarkets? How would we entertain ourselves if it wasnt for advertising or tv screens or new things to buy? Your comment just proves what we as anarchists are up against, why compare anarchy to a jamaican bobsled team? We will stay at home, away from the eyes of big brother and plan, plan plan, because one day the people will reclaim the streets and hopefully most of you competetive power hungry ants will crumble along with the system, we don't need you.
ANARCHY IS FREEDOM"
i understand the angst, really i do, but damn that is elitist as fuck! most people i have met do not like their jobs, they can't wait to get home from work. granted, people are much more acttached to lesiure spectacles but still...most people are not robotic ants but are caught up in the same shit treadmill we are. that they cannot necessarily articulate this as well as us and point the blame in the same place we do? well, people with our experiences are rare...still, no need to make a clique out of the matter and compare most people in the world to the stupid trolls who have nothing better to do but spew their ideological jizz here.
personally i try to steer clear of making statements about most people unless i feel i cannot avoid it. i do not know most people, i know who i know.
Textbook hypocrisy. May I
Textbook hypocrisy.
May I ask what type of computer you own?
I love anarchists!! They are
I love anarchists!! They are soo different from the main stream! Like how they dress the same (all in black with their faces covered) acting in the same manner yelling the same things with the same ideology, with their own system of communication and use of slang (which denotes a soceity), and how instead of standing up for their beliefs, they damage someones stuff then they change clothes behind a dumpster and try to blend with joe adverage...wait you ARE mainstream...I don't know if you are worse than the politicians, at least we can see their faces and we KNOW they are screwing us...you just pretend to be something else but really, you are all the same...Like the christian right with a bad tailor...
yes, anarchists are really
yes, anarchists are really the ones ruining the world.
how does a person like you find the time to come here and say stupid crap? you really don't have anything better to do?
"You're shit, no one cares
"You're shit, no one cares about your riot tourism."
Oh really? So that's why you're telling us to "just stay home"?
Sounds like concern to me.
HAHAH this guy is such a
HAHAH this guy is such a dorky intellectuall agent, "riot tourism" haha that sounds like something from the Situationists... Did your overlords tell you how effective it would be to disrupt anarchist websites by monopolizing threads and spouting racist B.S.
You are just a funny characature of reality tugging on the leg of those who will leave you in the dust?
2010 is less than three
2010 is less than three months away. you anarchists missed it, they will not be rescheduling the olympics; too little, too late. Maybe you should have been paying attention to what happened in Holland in the late 80s when the people there managed to upset things so much for the olympics committee that they successfully routed the games away from there in 1988. this whole thing should have started years ago. good luck.
Uh, the resistance to the
Uh, the resistance to the 2010 games did start years ago. People have been protesting, smashing windows of corporate sponsors and sabotaging Olympic events in Vancouver for years now.
well done then, look what
well done then, look what you have to show for yourselves. might as well make some extra money selling t-shirts and cherries on the side of the road when the spectators start piling in and save the cash for a future struggle that is more thought-out.
"you anarchists are
"you anarchists are genetically inferior to the jamaican bobsled team"
I think this is one of the funniest troll quotes we've had on here.
I mean, "genetically inferior"? Thats a terribly enlightened thing to say. what is this guy, like a 19th century eugenecist or something? Is he gonna start talking about phreneology next? Can we get some diagrams comparing anarchist skulls to those of habitual drunks, jews, orangutangs, imbeciles and other untermenschen? How about a study linking anarchist tendencies to excessive masturbation? Does this guy have some kind of miracle tonic to sell us?
...and, the jamaican bobsled team? I thought cool runnings was a pretty cute little movie. John Candy was in that! Does this chap hate John Candy too? Didn't they almost win the race? I'd say thats pretty good for a bunch of dudes with no snow in their country.
meh, whatevs. I geues I just don't understand the troll mentality. They must not have very exciting lives.
Troll someone worthy of
Troll someone worthy of trolling. Like furries :D
What about anarchist
What about anarchist athletes? Does that blow your mind, sweatpants?
That is a racist comment
That is a racist comment towards the Jamaican bobsled team. You are a racist.
Funny how the actual work
Funny how the actual work and organization is being done by pro-organization/social anarchists and that the primmie anarchists are just hanging out and fetishizing native folks. The insurrectionists are waiting for them to rise up spontaneously. The post-leftists are waiting for them to ignore the material aspects of their existence and worship at the alter of Bob Black. Meanwhile real anarchists are getting shit done.
Even funnier how you don't
Even funnier how you don't know what you're talking about, since the "real work" you speak of is being done mostly by people who don't self-identify as "anarchists" let alone "pro-organization/social anarchists". Keep dreaming though, because you're just as delusional as the polar opposite anarchist enemies you've made for yourself.
Don't you realize that by
Don't you realize that by acting out like this you are promoting the training and enforcement of such law entities that you are trying to protest against...?
You're making the problem worse.
Don't you see that by acting out like this you're giving them an issue to show the public and promote their "safety" with "New surveillance infrastructure and the training of police and security forces in counter-insurgency"
I understand what you're trying to do but you are going about it in a very wrong way.
You're in a corner, no matter what, they're going to do what they're going to do. but NOW they have a "reason" to try to enforce new laws to protect the public against groups like yours.
You're loosing your credibility and any good messages you have are going to be lost in the violent tantrums you project to the public.
You're making BC look bad, you're making Canada look bad, and nobody is going to take your message seriously if you don't change the way you're pushing your message.
It's going to happen whether
It's going to happen whether you like it or not, so why not just benefit from the games like many other people have? Get a job with VANOC or a broadcaster? I personally stand to make over 20k in extra wages which i wouldn't have if it was just another crappy Vancouver winter. No network in the world is going to point their cameras at your signs or microphones at your bull-horns!