Strategies For Ecological Revolution From Below with Peter Gelderloos

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Strategies For Ecological Revolution From Below with Peter Gelderloos

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This week on The Final Straw, we’re featuring a recent conversation with anarchist author and activist, Peter Gelderloos about his latest book, “The Solutions Are Already Here: Strategies For Ecological Revolution From Below”, published by Pluto Press in 2022. For the hour we speak about critiques of science and Western Civilization that Peter levels, as well as the centrality of struggling on the ground we stand on, creating autonomous infrastructure, resisting colonial extractivism and the need for imagination and care as we tear down this ecocidal system.

Peter has prior authored such books as “Anarchy Works”, “How Non-Violence Protects The State”, and “Worshiping Power”, and you can find a number of his essays up on TheAnarchistLibrary.Org. You can also hear your interviews with Peter here: https://thefinalstrawradio.noblogs.org/post/category/peter-gelderloos/

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Whatever way you look at it, it's just not as exciting as Ted K's Anti-Tech Revolution Why & How...

What is your 10,000 year non-Western Civilization analysis as it applies to or calls into question Peter's focus on Western Civilization that caused you to raise the question, SirEinzige?

Many people localize a particular problematic part of civilization and don’t look at the whole. This is partly because to many of these 500 year limited critiquers they see the non White Western parts as the good guys(not necessarily Pete) in their leftist grand narrative.

Is anarchist analysis of civilization incomplete if it focuses on post-Early Bronze Age civilizations as they impact present day peoples or does the conversation need include a keen eye toward the Fertile Crecent? Would, for example, a conversation on post turn of the last century industrial society and consequences be thin without discussion of neolithic domestication practices? Can we discuss civilization as it is today, who dominates and drives it and which hemisphere it's based in, at all without analyzing the behaviors of the 10,000 year old peoples of the Yangtzee basin? Would that be invalid?

Where can we read more of your 10,000 year spanning analysis/critique of non-Western civilization?

No egp-anarch-egregore has time for explanations. The purest anarch-egregore-egoist makes assertions and peaces out until the next opportunity to display raw unfiltered intellect missiles. Egregore knows this.

Due to the obvious fact that we don't have informational access to the past compared to the modern era. Talking in terms of 10000 years is really more about defining the problem as civilization as such and not selectively focusing on the Western aspect. If we are talking about analyzing the last 2-500 years I would much rather focus on things like capital and state and technology ect

Civilization is ultimately a system and a reified mind virus. It needs to be critiqued and analyzed as such.

- Noooo you have to look at 10000 years not just 500!
- Well actually uh we don't have access to 10000 years.
- Noo you can't selectively analyze just 2-500 years you have to look at the whole.
- PG can't analyze selective things like Western civ.
- I would rather analyze selective things like [examples].
- *toilet sounds*
- *contradictory assertions*
- Every egregore knows this.

The point is the farther you go back in time the more hazier the finer points and details that doesn't mean no access which is not what I said. We also don't have full access to the last 500 years. Being anticiv means you are rejecting the last 10000+ years of civilized human development not just the selective 'white' 'western' stuff.

Keep troll failing my friend;)

Nooo what I meant by "the obvious fact that we don't have informational access to the past" was that we don't have more hazier fuuuull informational access access to the 10000+ year past and we should focus on Western white civ! All anticiv anarch-ego-egregores do not care to enlighten the modern day civ cucks on the 10000+ year civ history so we spend all our time on internets convincing civ cucks that they are cucks in 10000+ year civ doing it all wrong. Everygore knows this.

Good point about the mind virus, or what my radical theory suggests, is a language/emotion circuitry which is triggered into aggressive emotional reaction when word sequencies form abusive threats and cause neurosis, even sadistic revengeful actions within the "civilized" veneer of co-operative engagement, which in reality never occurred between tribes except as trade made as peace offerings. Graeber goes right into these processes of social sacrificial/debt obligatory language/trade complex which are the proto capitalist merchant social norms of today.

I've come up with the term cognitive obesity to partially describe what happened to humans all those eons ago. I do like some fat on the bones personally and unlike Zerzan I'm ok with symbolic thought and some baseline level of domestication(Huskies are ok not purse pooches). I think domestication is something that simply emerges from the terrestrial world as does symbolic thought.

What we have right now though is 900ibs on a motorized wheelchair.

"What we have right now though is 900ibs on a motorized wheelchair"
If this isn't modern poetry, I don't know what is! Brilliant metaphor of present clogged domesticated cognitive brain hemorrhoid. Yes, all for huskies, messenger pigeons, even pony express or an electric snowmobile with a range of 20 kms. Main emphasis should be on braking the moronic global economic progress/growth pyramid scheme and the populations it requires to operate it.

SirEinzige,
I invite you to call in to AnarchyRadio, for a friendly conversation regarding your views on the value of symbolic thought, domestication, obesity, and anarchy, on Tuesday 7pm PST at 541-346-0645 during the live broadcast.

Challenge accepted! SirEinzige fears no human man. He will embody 10000+ years of egregorian anarch analysis to eviscerate the old man's anti-domestication obesity on his own show. Once the Zerz falls all know the name SirEinzige. Evegregore knows this.

Yes SE, for example, the Clovis tribe during the post-glacial migratory era, and numerous others on other continents.

The Clovis's currency were the arrow and spear tips they carved which could kill seals, which makes sense, food, tents and clothing made from animal skin. It gave the young virile Clovis man the independence to go forth out into the wilderness and get capital, meet a cute Clovis virgin woman, build a blizzard proof tent-house, have a family etc, its not just Western Civ got to that smug level of bourgeois comfort. People been doing that for 12,000 years. There is no class-war, that is a Marxist construct!

Any suggestions on how to avoid or undermine the Communitarian Nonprofit Industrial Complex for eco-defense would be much, much appreciated. Goddamn liberal liberal good-conscience fam-muh-lies and their armies of well-discipled drone children aren't very good prospects for leaving nature fucking alone (in both senses). Thanks, bye!

(I'm asking within the real context of a forest being both defended and threatened by this same communitarian caste described above, up against hardcore capitalist real-estate interests)

I meant to write "Millenial liberals". Soon to be overtaken by neolib Zoomers anyways ;)

hang out at the camp and constantly shit talk them to all the younger folks who might otherwise get taken in by their bullshit? that's what I would do and have done. also, eat their food and "borrow" their gear

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