Ten Theses on Anti-(((Tiqqunism)))

From Scenes from the Atlanta Forest

Recently a handful of people, likely a very small group associated with the Ungrateful Hyenas, who live thousands of miles from Atlanta and do not participate in the struggle against Cop City, have posted long tracts critiquing “Tiqqunism” on a platform dedicated to hosting communiques of sabotage against Cop City. If thoughtful, capable people come to believe the writings of the hyenas, it is not because they have posed interesting ideas or demonstrated any impressive capacity to act individually or as a group. Rather, their claims resonate only on the basis of their banality. The stories they are bandying out, the pseudo-debate they are attempting to conjure, and the odd slogans they are peddling on the internet magnify the same generalized timidity, powerlessness, and repression that all counter-revolutionary forces strive to produce.

Many of us who have witnessed this same pattern for over a decade, who are frequent targets of this hostility, and who have experienced it via online insults, whisper campaigns, and actual threats of personal violence, have long chosen to ignore the bickering and focus on participating in real struggles against our real adversaries. However, when these online critiques and whisper campaigns take direct aim at social struggles and implicitly threaten violence against autonomous infrastructure, it becomes critical to confront those who are more concerned with policing the purity of their ideology than with the civilizational crises that we face in this century. Thus, we would like to share a few ideas with those who have had the misfortune of reading this genre of unhelpful, dishonest, poorly-written, and odd Francophilia posted on this site or elsewhere.

A Brief Summary of Hyenaism:
The “Ungrateful Hyenas” and their running dogs believe that a vast intercontinental conspiracy of so-called “Tiqqunists” centralize power in movements. These conspirators are a shadowy, manipulative cabal. They look like anarchists, they talk like anarchists. They may even call themselves anarchists, or communists, or abolitionists, or something else. But you cannot trust them, because their name is not their real identity. Every struggle that emerges, from the George Floyd Uprising to mass ecological struggles taking place in France, to the struggle against Cop City, is simultaneously the result of an organic upwelling of resistance in which no organized force could or should play a decisive role, and in danger of being coopted by these so-called “Tiqqunists.” Their conspiracy proceeds according to the following logic:

1. “Tiqqunists” exist as an organized political force, distinct from and opposed to anarchists. Since they will never identify themselves, anyone might be a Tiqqunist. Because Tiqqunists present the greatest possible threat to anarchists, the latter must constantly be vigilant for their presence. It is not possible to articulate what Tiqqunists believe in, but, like obscenity, “we know it when we see it.”

2. These (((Tiqqunists))) are secretive and manipulative, and exert control over finances and media without identifying themselves. They are part of a global conspiracy of shadowy figures who bring dangerous ideas. They have secret meetings, but not as legitimate affinity groups with the right to privacy, rather, as something sinister and bad. They participate in local events, but they secretly answer to foreign contacts and networks.

3. Since these Tiqqunists represent such a great threat to anarchists, wherever they are hiding, they must be exposed and confronted through whisper campaigns, doxxing, or direct violence. When a movement faces repression, as in the extreme violence and judicial repression visited upon both the defenders of the Atlanta Forest and the participants in Les Soulèvements de la Terre, it is more important to blame the shadowy cabals of the (((Tiqqunists))) than to support those repressed, or to intervene materially in the struggle in any capacity.

4. Anarchists should not “tolerate” the presence of Tiqqunists within movements, but should engage in “principled conflict” with them, up to and including arson attacks on autonomous infrastructure as well as conducting investigations into their networks. Tiqqunists are so adept at hiding themselves and manipulating readers that many people might be falsely convinced by their ideas, so it is up to principled anarchists to purge Tiqqunists from their milieus, and to stigmatize their platforms online. Ideas are dangerous, and these ideas are so dangerous that they must be purged by any means necessary. They are so manipulative that it is impossible to engage in reasoned debate with their ideas; deplatforming “Tiqqunist” speakers and ideas is the best way to protect innocent activists who might otherwise be hoodwinked into believing the wrong things.

Ten Theses on the Pervasive Reaction:
1. These “critiques” are not genuine sectarianism, but function primarily as horizontal repression.
“Decompositions” was published a month after the assassination of Tortuguita, which was followed by an avalanche of domestic terrorism charges against forest defenders, and less than two weeks before another Week of Action in Atlanta. “Breaking Ranks,” a supposed “exposé” of the secret authoritarian agenda of Les Soulèvements de la Terre, was published only a couple weeks after the French government violently rounded up over 30 alleged organizers with Les Soulèvements de la Terre, while officially banning and criminalizing the movement as a whole.
In the midst of some of the most combative and creative struggles against climate devastation and the police, while participants were laying in comas, in graves, or rotting in jails, these “comrades” deemed it timely to intensify ideological attacks, attempting to isolate those enduring repression from their allies and support networks. Somehow, the “Tiqqunists” are reformist manipulators who cooperate with the state and simultaneously constitute such a threat to the state that entirely unprecedented juridical instruments must be deployed to combat them in both Atlanta and France.
In their latest critique of Les Soulèvements de la Terre, the conspiracy theorists explicitly celebrate an arson attack against a movement space described as a “school of the earth” at the ZAD, demonstrating that their primary motivation is not insurrection, nor confrontation with the state and the capitalists destroying the planet — it is nothing other than vengeance and petty personal score-settling, plain and simple. It is a serious mistake to assume political affinity with, and extend solidarity to, people who are dedicated to the destruction of autonomous spaces and whose response to repression is to further attack those repressed. They are almost certainly not part of a CIA or DGSI operation-–but their impact is the same.

2. The Hyenaist critique is little more than grist for the content mill.
In the content factory, we’re all forced to act as journalists, pretending to discover a new outrage each day, while forgetting whatever we were concerned with the day before. Ultimately this is an internalization of contemporary repressive and economic conditions: disposability, precarity, surveillance and self-management. We internalize these repressive logics, then parrot them back. By assuming the form of “content,” our position of confinement, alienation, impotence and fear assumes the false guise of righteousness and lashes out against anyone who does not conform.
The Hyenaists, it seems, have decided to play their part. In a last ditch effort, a couple lonely bloggers are cleaving to their collapsing identities, which emerged from a political paradigm that is now completely outmoded. Nobody likes confronting their own distorted reflection in the mirror.

3. The Hyenaists present no substantial critique, only a counter-insurgent “anti-strategy”, that offers condemnations designed to justify attacks and spread confusion.
While their denuciatory rants are fixated on identifying “who” might be a “Tiqqunist” in the hopes of discrediting them, they don’t even pretend to engage with the ideas of the US or Canadian militants who they are attacking. Their most bombastic criticism consisted of a collage-like mish-mash of various snippets pulled from texts over the past decade. If they have any theoretical critique, it’s unclear what it is. According to their logic, anyone who forms connections with others, discusses strategy, and participates as though the stakes are historical and civilizational may be a “Tiqqunist”.
While at first pass this murky thinking seems like a failure, in fact it is part of their strategy: by remaining deliberately vague and divisive, their denunciations are able to target an entirely nebulous grouping of people as enemies, legitimizing bad faith attacks on movements, organizers, and revolutionaries. Their mentality is that of a micro-Cheka, aspiring towards a purge to protect their party line. However, having rendered themselves hyper-marginal, their primary power lies in sowing doubt and confusion, which succeeds to the extent that they demobilize people and deter them from participating in struggles. The modes of social control they complain about—secretive conspirators silencing the true anarchists—are in fact the modes of social control they are most adept at employing. Because they have nothing substantive to say, they rely on whispers and smear campaigns. It is they who are the closet authoritarians, their blog posts little more than a projection.

4. The Anarchist Thermidor?
Ultimately, these critiques are rooted in an older political paradigm, in which militants either betray their ideals or get betrayed. In the month of Thermidor (July 1794), the Jacobin French revolutionaries were betrayed by conservative forces, and all of their allies were arrested or guillotined. For the next two centuries, discourses and attitudes on this perceived pattern or “inevitability” characterized significant camps in the world socialist bloc.
The Hyenas belong perhaps to that same socialist tradition quite a bit more than they might think.
When the organized authoritarian Left was a real force, it made a convenient foil for purists to project their fears onto. Rather than building actual capacities, like the long and dedicated organizing of Spanish anarchists prior to the revolution of 1936, small parties, cults, and reading groups could instead constitute themselves with scarcely more than projected risks and anxieties alone. Now that Stalinist and Trotskyist parties are even more irrelevant than in the past, these purists need new scapegoats to blame for their failures. The “Tiqqunists,” whoever they are, are that scapegoat. Unfortunately for them, what they call “Tiqqunism” does not exist. Only anti-Tiqqunism exists — as the sad mask of its own impotence.

5. The conspiratorial thinking about “Tiqqunism” is structurally rooted in antisemitic conspiracy theories.
Anti-semitism is the ur-conspiracy theory, deeply baked into the narrative structures by which people apprehend notions of sinister groups, secret plots, internal enemies, etc. Popular narratives about hidden cabals, double allegiance, or sinister forms of power and control draw conceptually from anti-semitism [1]. The formal structure of these accusations about “Tiqqunism” relies on tropes drawn from anti-semitic narratives, and also specifically targets a perceived informal network which happens to include quite a few Jews and is inspired by a jewish theological concept, tikkun olam [2].
Tiqqun was a short-lived French philosophy journal from 1999-2001, associated with the milieu that later produced The Coming Insurrection and other texts by the Invisible Committee—an association later used as evidence by the French state in prosecuting the Tarnac 9. The title of the journal “Tiqqun” is derived from a Jewish theological concept, tikkun olam, or “repairing the world.” [3] While no one identifies as a “Tiqqunist” and the journal itself has been dead for over 20 years, it is worth noting that these Hyenaists have fixated on the dog-whistle name “Tiqqunist” to describe their enemies, who they claim control movement finances, manipulate movement media, and participate in a global conspiracy. If you replace (((Tiqqunist))) with “communist jews” this exact “critique” would be indistinguishable from right-wing conspiracy theories about a “Jewish world conspiracy,” right down to their conviction that mass collective action is impossible without a shadowy group of manipulators pulling the strings for their own sinister purposes.
In France, where this conflict is more entrenched and from whence these US and Canadian Hyenas derive the central categories of their critique, their friends at least had the good sense to lightly mask the structural antisemitism of their theory by describing their enemies as “appelistes.” This term derives from a text titled “the Call” (in French, “Appel“) which was published anonymously in 2003, but which is presumed to have been written by people involved in both the journal Tiqqun and later the Invisible Committee. It is signficant that the insult “appeliste” or “appelista” was often used in a North American context a decade ago, but has been replaced by another term, “Tiqqunist,” that emphasizes the Jewish references and background of many of the thinkers and militants who are thus smeared.

6. The Hyenaist “critique” is ultimately an expression of Christian morality and an obsession with purity.
The hyenas belong in the company of moralists and liberals. Their framework is undergirded by a pervasive Christian morality: the world and humans are unsalvageable, revolution is impossible, so the best one can do is to make oneself as pure as possible, declare oneself righteous, speak correctly, and cleave to one’s own “pure” party line. It is more important to demonstrate adherence to the correct ideology than to participate in collective action (which necessitates association with strangers) in order to repair the world (tikkun olam). Seeking personal salvation through purity is more important than the messy reality of engaging in politics. If nothing else, there may be self-actualization through the “joy” of taking action, purging the unclean thoughts through the rites of the holy sacrament. Thus one may participate in a riot but may never think about how to move from riot to insurrection, nor how to contribute to struggles in ways that involve more people and open up more possibilities.

7. Whining and sectarianism always emerges after the crest of uprisings.
It is no mistake that a near-identical brand of self-described “nihilism” took hold in the US in the wake of the Occupy movement, when thousands of militants who participated in bold action found that even the highest extreme of dedication and self-sacrifice does not guarantee a revolutionary transformation of the world. Many of those who today are denounced as “Tiqqunists” were, in fact, a part of that crashing wave of negativity and pessimism. Similarly, after the George Floyd Uprising “failed” to abolish the police, being unable to overcome a violent reaction from the far right and a reassertion of control from the center, it is understandable that burnout and disappointment would produce some degree of resentment and a conviction that revolutionary change is impossible. Many people stopped struggling altogether and returned to their lives; others understood the uprising as a high point in a much longer cycle of struggle, and began to ask themselves how they could sustainably continue the struggle as the insurrection faded; some have co-constructed the movement to stop Cop City; a small handful decided to turn on other comrades, in a sad and weak repetition of the internecine violence of the old Left.

8. The greatest condemnation of the Hyenaists is their own weakness.
If comrades are unhappy with contemporary struggles, they should participate, take action on their own terms, and prove the vitality of their ideas through their impact on the world and their ability to attract other participants. At a minimum, they could compete to precipitate the most destruction against their actual enemies. Instead, some would have us believe that the 30,000 people who participated in the sabotage at St. Soline, France, were manipulated by “Tiqqunists.” This claim is laughable. Ideas demonstrate their vitality by inspiring people to act on their own terms. Good ideas spread and initiate practical responses. Either the (((Tiqqunists))) are master manipulators and so thoroughly control movement resources and media that other theories of revolution are somehow “starved” of oxygen and repressed, or the Hyenas and their ilk simply have no real ideas to bring to the table, and as a result, are unable to convince others to participate in their suicidal drive towards a performative liberal militancy.
In their denunciation of St. Soline, they demonstrate their own function as a repressive apparatus. Farmers, environmentalists and militants fought bravely at St. Soline and faced unthinkable violence. There were consequences, and there has been substantive reflection and self-critique to help avoid the same traps in the future. The “critique” from the Hyenas is essentially limited to the theory that 30,000 people participating in mass sabotage of infrastructure for corporate water theft were actually liberals and not doing “real” sabotage, and, moreover, that they were manipulated by sinister plotters who are responsible for the state violence visited upon them, and finally, that those same plotters are secret reformists working hand in hand with the state. The logic is so impressively byzantine, that it’s unclear what exactly the motives of these sinister plotters could possibly be.
In this framework there is no room for experimentation, failure, reflection, learning, and more experimentation—only a conviction that nothing is possible, and then a circular firing squad when things go sideways. If the Hyenaists are convinced that large-scale uprisings against the destroyers of life on this planet are impossible, they should do something else with their lives than attack people trying to fight.

9. Paranoia about “composition” is a mirage rooted in the Hyenas’ own fear of working with strangers outside of an insular milieu, and their own resistance to change.
Next to “Tiqqunism,” the other buzzword repeatedly employed by these paranoiacs is “composition,” which they adamantly oppose because they don’t like some people in France who also use that word, but which they never define nor engage with theoretically (aside from a ridiculous suggestion that the people currently accused of terrorism in France are dedicated to opportunistic unity with the ruling class at all costs). Composition is simply one anti-authoritarian idea among many about how to move and collaborate with diverse others in a fragmented era. It is a way to think collective joy and power across difference and without centralization, starting from the premise that it is both impossible and undesirable to control movements in authoritarian ways. Not all who have been decried as “Tiqqunists” even agree with this proposal. If the Hyenas have such a taboo against the word, they should propose another strategy for how to bring together high numbers of extremely distinct individuals, cultures, and subjectivities, through diverse forms of participation, at a scale sufficient to actually win social struggles. If they have no interest in working with anyone aside from other self-described anarchists, then they are not revolutionaries and should stop pretending to be. If they are not revolutionaries, and they are not open to being changed by participating in struggle, and they are not interested in winning, it is bizarre that they are so obsessed with policing the acceptable theoretical boundaries of their milieu. It appears as though their primary interest is the preservation of their group or subculture.

10. There is no debate between “insurrectionalism” and “Tiqqunism.”
There are only those who seek to make the truth of the global uprisings the new common sense, and counter-revolutionaries on the sidelines who are content to revolt every now and then, while dedicating the remainder of their time to crushing possibilities and spreading sad passions. Those who don’t concern themselves with victory against capitalism, who only content themselves with sporadically attacking things, are not extremists at all.
May the real nihilists come forward at long last, that we may destroy the world system for good, instead of just toying around with it!

Onward
No doubt the hyenas will continue their yipping and ankle biting, and will write some bombastic retort to this piece. It will likely include more pieces translated from French trying to import personal conflicts from another continent. It will take the existence of this retort as proof of the existence of a “tiqqunist” conspiracy, instead of the natural response of individuals subject to repeated slander and attacks. They will repeat accusations of a secretive, authoritarian, milieu. They will likely mention some outrage that some people perpetrated against some other people in France, and use it as proof of guilt for everyone in Canada and the US who they do not like. They will try to convince you—just as the media does every day—that the world is fucked and that having a hot take on who’s really to blame is the most one can do. They might say that the most radical position is to assume we cannot win but that we should fight for the sake of fighting. They will argue that the ability to change one’s mind and develop new ideas in response to new information is a trait of shape-changing opportunists. They will tell you exactly what real anarchists should believe and how they should act, and they will argue in favor of hunting down apostates and heretics to their faith. Perhaps they will take inspiration from their friends across the Atlantic and attempt to burn down some autonomous project that they think is ideologically impure.

We don’t particularly care, and we have nothing to say to people whose only conception of struggle is to compete for ideological supremacy within a tiny milieu. We do, however, want to extend an invitation to all readers to participate in struggles, to survey the conditions on the ground before making up one’s mind, to formulate hypotheses with trusted friends about what form of intervention or action is most likely to weaken enemies and build power outside and against the state, to take those actions, and then to formulate new hypotheses. Meet new people, assume good faith, be willing to change, be genuinely interested in different ideas. People have been fighting for liberation since the first states and the first empires, and there have been more ideas and words for this struggle than there have been cultures and civilizations. It is the height of hubris for anyone to believe that they, and they alone, have unlocked the true key to liberation.

If we fight, if we truly take ourselves seriously, there will be failures and missteps—this is a sign of vitality and experimentation in an era that desperately needs both. We experiment, we encourage others to experiment, we fail, we learn, we try differently. The only thing that can truly kill a fighting spirit is a conviction that it is impossible to win. There is room for everyone to take bold action, there is room for everyone to put their skills and their passions to use in repairing the world. For those who disagree with the theses in this piece, we issue a good-natured challenge: develop your own hypotheses about how to expand the struggle and act accordingly. If your actions are effective, we are excited to be inspired by them.
Cop City will never be built.

-some anarchists

Footnotes:

[1] Unlike other forms of racism, where some tangible quality of the other forms the basis for separating them out from the group (i.e. black skin, a kind of language, a particular shape of one’s eye, etc.), anti-Semitism is a unique form of racism that depends on the absence of any discernible quality or feature to mark the otherness of the other. As a consequence, this kind of racism is marked by a constant vigilance of and suspicion towards everyone and anyone, while at the same time constantly demonstrating – usually through the virulence of one’s own anti-Semitic or racist views – that one is not one of the others. See Moishe Postone’s interview on, “Zionism, anti-semitism, and the left” for one of many summaries of this dynamic https://www.krisis.org/2010/zionism-anti-semitism-and-the-left/).
[2] The irony in all this is that the historical denunciations of sabbateanism within Judaism itself were themselves a form of internal structural anti-semitism that raised many of the very issues that fascinated Gershom Scholem, Walter Benjamin and the writers of the journal Tiqqun itself.

[3] Walter Benjamin was a major reference for that milieu (“Invisible Committee,” for example, is a reference to his book, the Arcades Project), and they attempted to rescue the radical character of his messianic Jewish and anti-state communist thought.

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"Counter-revolutionary"
"Whisper campaigns"
"Running dogs"

Maoist claptrap

Yeah so, as anarchist I don't feel like you're being nice win this diatribe with me. Not only you're othering and dismissing valid critiques thrown at this group/network/cult as "antisemitic" conspiracy theories - WOW - but you're bluntly telling me who-what *should* I believe or not... but at the same time I should always expect the "good faith" or anyone within a movement or struggle. Given how dangerously self-defeating that is, that really is a hard sell.

The US and France aream the global top spots for a high concentration of glowies, spooks, shills, cuckoos and all the rest of the fucked up jungle of authoritarian Tarzans and Janes, like those Ungrateful Hyenas I'm also supposed to trust despite their very name being a warning sign (!). Rather explain me why I should not be on my guard, or at best keeping some careful observing distance before going into some flaming devotion to some group and/or their cause.

So back to the conspiracy theory accusations, they're pretty low-effort and represent your assumptiona of the low mental age of their proponents. When one understands how hierarchies are ALL a form of conspiracy (read the theory on "voluntary servitude", that any self-proclaimed anarchist should have read), there's nothing extraordinary and even less antisemitic about it. Jews have also been for ages the targets and frequent victims of conspiracies... The Final Solution literally was a conspiracy by some German-focused establishment, as well as their Ustaca, Banderist and Islamist counterparts.

they aren't "valid critiques", that's the whole point of this writing. they're vague, baseless, murky accusations taken right out of the classic playbook with a few different buzzwords slotted in.

I became fascinated with this "tiqqunist/appelist" crap only a few years ago, it was obviously a big part of the chatter associated with the ZAD and one of the first things i noticed was how nobody could give me straight answers to my simple questions as somebody who was completely new to the topic. people would become very hostile and defensive after a question or 3 and they'd quickly dismiss me as a clueless dupe who didn't understand the french @ scene but is that the issue?

it's true i'm from the west coast and mostly only familiar with anglo-anarchist discourse but i kept asking, what's the explain-like-i'm-5 simple summary here? and nobody could do it. they could reference hotly debated, controversial events in and around the struggle for the ZAD but that didn't answer my questions.

it was always just vague accusations and assertions with no meat and very light on details. tiqqunists had something to do with selling out the ZAD, they had something to do with some guy getting beaten and put in the trunk of a car, they're militant anticapitalists but somehow colluding with the state too and on and on like that, in an infinite spiral of bullshit.

if you're familiar with conspiracy theory and cults, these rhetorical tricks of attacking and denigrating anyone who asks questions about where the fuck you're getting these LARGE conclusions from, should be familiar. it absolutely follows the classic playbook of the "learned elders of zion" and french anti-semites likely blazed that whole trail more than a century ago so ... it's kind of perfect.

put another way, any effective anti-capitalist organizing seems to be haunted by this old canard. therefore, we should be sharpening our analysis in anticipation. as this astute writer points out, counter insurgency is as does, even if the useful idiots don't know they're functionally working for the state.

It's been years since you inquired and you still haven't figured out why the appelistas were despised by most anarchists at NDDL ZAD? Good god, brah, do a little reading. Put in some effort.

But also: people "in it" do not owe you, who are not in it, the granular details so you can get a curious tourist boner.

did you read the article? it's not about whether there's any authoritarian commies in france, of course there is...

it's about the strange, paranoid leaps of logic to then extrapolate that in to an international conspiracy that sees crypto-commies in every anarchist movement in canada and the US, as if that's what anarchists should be worried about

I tried to give this article a chance…but once it reached the bs with #5 and anti-tiqqunism being equated with baseless allegations of “anti-semitism” based on the Jewish (not Yiddish or Hebrew or etc) origin of a word and feature of some of the writers in that journal (dismissing everyone else who wasn’t and isn’t in the process) I stopped reading and again realized how fucking dumb tiqqunists are. And how entrenched and integrated semitism is in White Supremacy.

don't think it's literally saying this is anti-semitic necessarily...

the issue is any use of any vague gesture towards a large, shadowy international network with massive resources and associated with communism. it's the classic "cultural marxist", "cultural bolshevism" trope. all of these slight variations on the classic fascist conspiracy theory are extremely sus by default IF you're paying attention to how far right, racist psyops tend to exist in the wild.

or you can choose to just ignore all that, at not-just-your-own peril

"how entrenched and integrated semitism is in White Supremacy."

Please enlighten us on that, Nation of Islam! :-/

It must be coincidence that a more openly White Supremacist regime (Trump and co.) is the one which moved its imperial embassy to Jerusalem, a city occupied by Zionists for the past 70 years. Or is that just anti-semitism, Nation of America ;)

Ok so Erdogun's apparently not a White supremacist, and since he's pro-Palestine, he's all good, despite publicly praising Adolf Hitler.

FANTASTIC display of logic, dumbass.

I AM A SEMITOPHILE AND I DEPLORE YOUR POLITICIZATION OF OUR BELOVED BRIT MILLAH CUSTOM!!

Oh great, the jews are responsible for white supremacy now too. Tiqqun is a Hebrew word also haha, the "q's" are french but we'd render it with "k's" in English. The claim is about structural antisemitism, the blaming of cabals of *dogwhistle* "globalists," "zionists," "tiqqunists" for manipulating collective action

I just want to take a moment of ZEN and reflect on this statement from the above article:

"Rather, their claims resonate only on the basis of their banality. The stories they are bandying out, the pseudo-debate they are attempting to conjure, and the odd slogans they are peddling on the internet magnify the same generalized timidity, powerlessness, and repression that all counter-revolutionary forces strive to produce."

Yet, Scenes from the Atlanta Forest recently posted an article that isn't even worth linking for how terrible it is, but called: "Why Wolfi, Aragorn!, and William Gillis have bad ideas, opinions, and beliefs about social war"

And, the last line of their one paragraph critique says: ""Aragorn! simply had alot of unique and individual opinions to disagree with." End of post
#1. * A LOT
#2. Scenes simply has A LOT of bad opinions
#3. I want to agree with you about William Gillis, but I can't even do that because of how terrible your critique of Wolfi and Aragorn! is. Okay, maybe I can...

lol one reason it's hard to go against the tiqqunists is that they will out-write just about anyone.

this was very good stuff except the CLAPTRAP about antisemitism. that really brought down the whole piece because it was so transparently bad-faith.

it is indeed funny that some of the recent accusations against the tiqqunists sound like some of the accusations antisemites make against jews but, while it's worth pointing that out, it doesn't make those accusations against the tiqqunists nor the accusers themselves antisemitic. inference to the contrary is disgusting and, worse, deeply liberal. empty, destructive idpol trash

i say that as someone who (while not myself a tiqqunist) is basically on the tiqqunist "side" in this nonsense

> tiqqunists

The (unfunny) thing is that this is totally wrong. You can dismiss this as idpol trash or whatever, but I'm pretty certain that this piece comes out of a couple substantially Jewish circles of anarchist comrades who have been consistently derided as tiqqunists.

> human rights violation

Sir, this is an anarchist website

A long long time ago I read Theory of a Young Girl and liked it, so there are some good abstractions that appeal to some subjectivities, no?

Ever since the time they went full mainstream with The Coming Insurrection, their writings started to suck real bad. Pompous neo-Leninist dlaptrap all over. ButI agree... their early writings were pretty good post-Situationist (not implying the actual Post-Situ) theory, even if borrowing heavily on PLW and D & G.

"a very small group associated with the Ungrateful Hyenas, who live thousands of miles from Atlanta and do not participate in the struggle against Cop City"

How would you know if they participate in the struggle against cop city or not? Also you don't need to go all the way to Atlanta to participate in that struggle, targets are all over the country.

The whole antisemitism thing is just a baseless reach.

"The conspiratorial thinking about “Tiqqunism” is structurally rooted in antisemitic conspiracy theories."

^ read it again

NOT a literal claim of anti-semitism. it's pointing out how concerning it is when ANY claim strongly RESEMBLES fascist conspiracy.

Got it? Do better. Start by removing heads from asses, should improve reading comprehension.

"The conspiratorial thinking about “Tiqqunism” is structurally rooted in antisemitic conspiracy theories."
This claims by association that Tiqqunists are antisemitists, because " strongly rooted " = "is a member of ".
Comprehend the nuances of expression in vocabularies.

lol are you really this confused or just trolling?

I'm not even trying to follow this thread but is it yet another case of lumpy rushing in to defend organizationalists, no matter what?

... you're replying to my comment while pretending to talk past me AND admitting you don't want a real answer

too bad you can't get paid for smarm huh?

No, I just delving internally, and guess what, after going through a welcome purging, I realized that Tiqqers have transcended the idea of a materialist revolution, they resemble the social furnishings, but they are actually seething in creativity!

NOT a literal claim of anti-semitism. it's pointing out how concerning it is when ANY claim strongly RESEMBLES fascist conspiracy."

- claims (justified) of authoritarianism, groupthink,

- claims of rampant cultist gimmicks.

- claims of liberalism/reformism. "Dual Power" on- record, like doing entryism within municipal governments, or publishing deals with mainstream corporate businesses or academia (Semiotext(e), FNAC, etc).

- claims of infiltrating, disrupting and taking over anarchist spaces and projects.

What else is "antisemitic"?

Well, don't let me shock anyone or anythng, but both these authors and the ungrateful have valid points and unvalid points. 'm not sure that conspiracy thinking that is here attributed to anti-semitism NEEDs to be associated with anti-semitism to be bad, it can just be a bad thing to do: sloppy thinking, mystifying, hypocrtical, etc. (Associating it with anti-jewish sentiment seems like an appeal to identity politics that might be politically useful, but not theoretically or philosophically helpful since it can be broader than anti-semitism and/or at least not just anti-semitic.) Things don't have to be attached to a single kind of identity oppression in order to be called out.

Seems strange that there is so little actual citation in this tiqqunist writing. No actual attribution of actual words. Haven't read Decomposition, but I wonder if it's the same? A lot of hurling of accusations and name calling?

There's a difference between identity politics and identifying structural antisemitism. Idpol would be organizing on the basis of a Jewish identity. This piece claims that "there are no tiqqunists, only anti tiqqunists." It follows from Sartre's idea that "if the jew did not exist, the antisemite would invent him." Someone is going to come along and use an evil cabal to mystify struggle against capital. It's the type of paranoia about mass action that is how modern antisemitism expresses itself. Recognizing that isn't idpol

My point is that attaching paranoia about mass action to a particular group of people is idpol. Disagree if you like, but re-stating isn't really pointing out how you disagree. Not trying to be snarky at all.

i think you make an interesting connection but the only problem with your assertion is that this boogeyman myth of the "jewish communists" is far older than the more modern concept of IdPol, so if you want to understand the context, you can't just equivocate these two critiques

it's sort of a ...very old, reactionary strawman argument that uses a racist caricature. so that's a bit like saying blackface is identity politics? kind of? but not really? it's far, far worse?

but i do see your point about paranoia, sort of like when libertarian trolls used to argue that all black blocs are always undercover cops. i don't think hardly anyone believes that crap anymore but it was all the fake news rage, 10 years ago.

No the point is that anti jewish conspiracies are the template for the criticism of tiqqunists. Just like they were the template for conspiracies about communists. That's just the history of this kind of rhetoric. The connection is already there whether you notice it or not. And saying so isn't idpol, its just knowing a bit about antisemitism. So I guess the disagreement we have is you just don't see the trope of cabals hidden in plain sight and controlling social movements as drawing from antisemitism. To that I'd say you should probably read a bit about the genealogy of these ideas, like maybe the Postone interview that's cited

"No the point is that anti jewish conspiracies are the template for the criticism of tiqqunists."

Yeah. no. They aren't.

Just like you appear to have completely avoided my post at 06:50 like it's that elephant in your room.

"Rhetoric" where? In which fucking text or even comment didja read anything about Tiqquntards being the Synagogue of Satan, that sacrfices and eats young kids for adrenochrome shots in the secret basement at the pizzeria?Oh nevermind... just ignore.

Obvious straw man. Comment sounds like you didn't read the text

Comment sounds like you're just bluntly avoiding the issue (raised not only by me, here) of the shitty straw man thrown in the text itself, about !them being critical of Tiqqun are just antisemites, coz you'd better believe they sound like them!"

- Where are the sources or quotes for these claims? Which texts?

- How does that makes them even similar in their rhetoric to antisemitic conspiracy theories?

- You checkmated yourself by playing without thinking your shit too much? Just accept defeat and admit your mistakes, and save yourself from drowning deeper in this shit pit...

lol it's not a conspiracy theory. You tiqqunists have been a problem for years. And ungrateful hyenas aren't the only ones who can't stand you. This text is just an attempt to discredit anyone whose familiar with your methods of recuperation and authoritarianism. Don't be a coward and play identity politics in order to make this about anti-Semitism. You failed in France. Looks like you're failing here too.

I mean, these folks mobilized dozens of actions wherein thousands of participants destroyed corporate ecocidal property and fought the police. if that's "failure" for you, I would love to know how you're "succeeding."

I mean, by "these folks" do you mean the few who act like they *guided* thousands of people? Thousands of people who, prior to any "Instructions for Autonomy" handbook were already busy doing shit? You sound just like a tiqqunist. Tiqqunists didn't motivate or organize anyone. All tiqqunists have done is perfect the art of claiming responsibility for other peoples actions.

Not op, but yeah basically. Sorry no one reading any Novatore or whatever had any strategic thought.

THouSanDs Of PeOpLE WhO weRe aLrEAdY attaCKing ThE ExiStEnT

"no one reading any Novatore or whatever had any strategic thought. "

Spoken like a true authoritarian, I mean, oRgaNizTionaLIsT caDre!

are you really not getting the sarcasm 12:33? do people have to start /s-ing now?

Well we mobilized HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of prole comrades up against Ukraine or Russia since last year! Absolute PROOF that u Tikoooontards are LOOOOOOSERS and Far Right ultra-nationalist capitalist authoritarianism WINS. Huh huh huh!

damn honestly this piece kind of hits. i met the so called tiqqunists once and they just kind of bounced back and forth between david graeber fandom, references to obscure theories on ancient plays, and like spanish civil was minutae it was more funny than intimidating

wow this goes hard. idk any of these people but have heard of the conflict. I just read the back and forth and I can’t see any link at all to Tiqqun/invisible committee texts themselves in the hyenas’ arguments. I haven’t read all the French stuff, and what I have read is definitely dense and sometimes super hostile, but the hyenas don’t seem to really care about what they say at all - exactly as op says. even if you disagree with the French commie stuff, is it really so hard to admit they make some really good points? feels like the hyenas straight up don’t understand what they’ve read or read it all super high or sth, and really dislike the (((tiqqunists))) they’ve met personally - which is a bullshit reason to tear down a whole tendency and the folks who read it. also why are they so mad about ‘composition’? how the fuck is anyone supposed to participate in a movement or a struggle without at least something like what they call composition??

The anti-semitism thing took me a minute to understand but I get what they’re saying. Doesn’t seem that complicated actually. There’s a loooong tradition of rooting out the bad-but-invisible-enemy-in-our-midst in many tendencies and political groups and anarchists are definitely guilty of this sometimes

Idk the hyenas just seem like dicks frankly

>and really dislike the (((tiqqunists))) they’ve met personally - which is a bullshit reason to tear down a whole tendency and the folks who read it

If your experience with a particular mode of thinking is negative interactions with those who ascribe to it (e.g., co-opting your projects), then tearing down the associated tendency seems entirely reasonable. These ideas don't exist in a vacuum, and unless you're an academic with your head shoved up your ass, all anyone cares about ideas is how they manifest in practice.

I'll also say 1. I seriously doubt the claim that the intent of the anti-semitism remarks were purely structural and not guilt by association, given the use of the extremely well-known (((anti-semetic meme))) for no obvious purpose other than emphasizing those associations (the meme has absolutely nothing to do with the structure of anti-semitism, only a particular instantiation of it), and 2. I can't help but notice some curious timing and writing similarities in the comments of this article... I'm getting some very strong whiffs of socks.

(whoops, should have said "straw-man" instead of "guilt by association", AFAIK there are no actual anti-semites associated with any of the parties involved)

This thing reads exactly like some authoritarians wrote it. Like this exact piece has been written countless times before, under different names but essentially the same. Good job.

This is why people don't fuq with Tiqqunists/Appelists or whatever you're not calling yourselves. "We don't exist but you guys should shut up about us" lol.

Please do explain? Like writing well and making reasoned arguments makes you authoritarian??

This text has one big *genetic fallacy* as its most salient argument, being literally used to single out as "antisemites" anyone who's critically denouncing Tiqqunists, coz some commenter somewhere used what sounds like Elders of Zion rhetoric on the Tiqqunians... but even that is baseless, as far as the author(s) didn't fucking back up their claims (with quotes, sources, etc).

Nice to see such demagogue drivel stands to you as "reasoned arguments", tho. The more you know!

you realize most of that could be said about the "hyenas" piece as well?

and again, it's not a literal claim of antisemitism, it's an analogy

my comment was censored before. i basically said i also almost didnt read it all but then in the end i did. the vibes are insanely fire and honestly if i was on the receiving end of this i would be kind of demoralized lol

No one in the US talked about Tiqqun really before the Call and in France they are called appelists not Tiqqunists. No one, especially the people who take these ideas seriously, call themselves Tiqqunists. IMO the people who are called Tiqqunists are really just insurrectionary anarchists with a greater depths of analysis and experimental practice.

> IMO the people who are called Tiqqunists are really just insurrectionary anarchists with a greater depths of analysis and experimental practice

*DING DING DING*

Sometroll here is indeed desperately looking for attention with these big-ass flamebait statements.

Ok, I thought the Call came out later than it did. My bad.

How many times does it need to be repeated for people to finally understand that the book is not "The Call" but simply "Call"? It is a literal translation of the French title "Appel," NOT "l'Appel." There is no fucking definite article anywhere near the title.

Guess it will be repeated indefinitely until I care? I don’t get hung up on this kind of thing. If you called Sartre’s book THE Critique of Dialectical Reason, I wouldn’t mind. I don’t know what role the “the” plays in French.

Ok but what is actually the difference between “Call” and “The Call”?

The answers you seek were discussed by Heidegger in The Being and Time, of which I have an expert take on, trust me.

It's the same as calling that shitty website and book "The Anarchist FAQ" instead of "Anarchist FAQ" or "An Anarchist FAQ."

*Library

Ok, I guess that makes sense. It isn’t “the” call because there can be other calls. Or is it just “call” because it’s a verb and not a noun?

I don’t remember the content of “Call,” so I have no idea what the title means in either case. Next time, I’ll get it right though! And look, it didn’t even need to be repeated again!

I like you

So yes, it's "Call" because there are others. My interpretation of the title is that it's a verb; like call and response. The authors issued a call to find others through readers responding to the book and to each other. It was a way to start conversations and projects.

It has to do with St Paul’s calling, and the notion of the messianic vocation. Tbh it doesn’t matter if you use “the call” or not in this regard. This is a theological Easter egg, but if you’re following the other points made in the 10 theses about Walter Benjamin, it’s sort of important, because for Benjamin there’s an important analogy between the history of the church and the tragic history of the left.

For Paul there is no person he follows (Jesus Christ), nor a messiah that he waits for, instead there is the time of the present—messianic time—which is unfolding. He is not a disciple, but an apostle. This is why Paul is an interesting figure for Benjamin, and his essays, because he is the secret 3rd thing that theologically and practically links the Torah to the New Testament and is simultaneously the origin of what will become the tragedy of the Christian church.

This also part of how and why Call is in conversation with insurrectional anarchism. “We have begun” on the back of the book, and some other choice parts inside are direct responses to anarchist rhetoric of the late 90s/early 00s. The idea of not waiting, but acting now. But then they reverse the insurrectional anarchist maxim to attack individually, and propose giving ourselves the means to strike. Refusing to wait then becomes about laying the ground (for the kingdom of heaven on earth) and simultaneously clearing the way. This is analogy also maps on to the point Call makes about refusing the false binary between destruction and creation.

this is very helpful context. i did not learn enough of Christianity before putting it in the bin, apparently. thx anon.

I'm more into the Psychedelic Existentialist Jesus of St Matthew, thanks.

the real conflict is between people who actually do shit and people who pretend to be badass "criminals" from the comfort of their liberal town

If by "do shit" you're referring to tiqunnists, no, they don't. They wait for other people to do shit and then claim it in their commie propaganda.

obviously you know that there is no way to meaningfully refute this claim on a platform like this but suffice it to say that you are delusional

If you spent less time on internet platforms in general, you would know exactly what I'm talking about.

i used to think that trying to have any kind of intermediate goals to "win" was liberal
now i realize that fighting only on the basis of beliefs around abstractions such as "total freedom from domination" without any specific reference or grounding tangible issue is essentially a religious commitment

ANY abstraction becomes an article of religious faith when it loses ties to a context and is raised in the clouds as some overarching imperative. This has been the case with several anarchist writings and communiques that never dare to answer "what does it mean?". Especially every cause as separated from a here and now and projected in some idealized future, Abstractions are "natural" in humans; making them into reified spooks is the unnatural mental disease.

reading this article and having lived on the zad in france from 2011 till our eviction in 2018 just reinforces me to continue to contribute to make the world known about this secret/confusing sect we identify as appelists (tiqqunists), they operate as any other authoritarian lift wing (political)group, the only difference is, they infiltrate any collective/organization or struggle if there are resources (infrastructure, land, donations), glory/fame or spectacle to be had. I remember around 2015 writing an open letter within the occupation mentioning this new "party" starting to exists that was much smelling like bolshevism... i used those words so poeple would understand/recognize the pattern that wasn't that visible.

this article actually came out the same day we did a discussion at the international anti-authoritarian meeting in st.imier in switzerland about what we endured in the zad and what happened the last years before the evictions and/or legalization of the occupation. No conspiracy theories, only experience and facts. A lot of people lost or left their "illegal" projects, structures, squad, gardens, safe spaces and horizontal organizations because a handful decided to start compromising basic anti-authoritarian values and make deals with the French state to keep their, mostly animal exploitive, projects, land and hierarchical organizations. they even went so far to dismantle themselves the illegal homes/cabins/structures, barricades, while harassing and putting pressure (sometimes with a lot of violence) on the dissidents and the worst was to even let police march trough the zone to evict those that didn't want to compromise and negotiate with the enemy. And 2y later, some of them created "les soulevements de la terre" which means "the rising of the earth" (from under our feets ;D ) which is composing with a whole bunch of questionable conformist authoritarian/legalist organizations and individuals, even judges. Sure, they will spike some revolt for a while but they will just become the new greenpeace for the next generations.

Having to face the state and its repression while being backstabbed by these authoritarians is a lesson learned. Never again!
I learned to instead of using the mystic word appelist (tiqqunist) to use the term authoritarians, which people can relate to much easier within their own organizations and struggles, especially to non-fRance persons. They cry the need to compose with all layers yet they very quick cut ties, criminalize and dissociate themselves from the radical branches within a movement so they look like the good guys in the eyes of the state to get the candy they negotiated for.

a nice text that came out in 2019 :
https://crimethinc.com/2019/04/23/reflections-on-the-zad-looking-back-a-...

see you on the frontlines
solidarity and strength !

yeah, to the ex tent that appelists/tiqqunists/the invisible committee are commies, which i'm not exactly clear about since europe is different from the u.s., this is totally normal commie behavior.

been dealing with commies joining groups and then changing the agenda for literally decades.

and that's just in my lifetime...

yeah so that's all one thing where I would defer to the judgement of people who were there, on that side of the pond.

also, i believe you're describing a phenomena of recuperation and cooptation that starts to occur within any radical movements that survive beyond their earliest stages BUUUT ... for me, i see this particular analysis of deriding every control freak and activist INC hustler as a crypto-communist to be a bizarre, toxic regression that doesn't clarify anything, wreaks of paranoia and worst of all, can easily be leveraged by people besides sincere anarchists.

it's often just a god damned feelings-centering exercise!

as in "every time my radical movements experience power struggles from within, I FEEL LIKE it's the same damned social managers and they're all in cahoots, i tells ya!"

like ... no, that's just the paranoia talking. don't wander off down the garden path like that, jfc... each situation is different but tendencies of political capture of our movements from within will always exist as a possible threat.

mexican anarchists sided with the liberals against the original zapatistas in the mexican revolution but if we blamed every anarchist on earth for that that would be insane

Emiliano Zapata now "enjoys" the official recognition of the Mexican state as a national liberation hero. Several towns are named after him and you even had a biopic on him starring Marlon Brando. This is your radical revolutionary movement? What a joke. Cuba Libre is just a word for Coca Cola. Red caps are amazing.

all of the mexican anarchists are literally also recognized as national heroes... have you ever been to mexico?

You mean that every Mexican anarchist gets a state recognition and status as national hero? Damn... all this time no one of you guise told me Mexico is an anarchist country!

appelists' actions at the ZAD derive directly from their ideas about "unholy alliances" and land and power by any means, and their friends on this side of the Atlantic have spent years defending those actions, while parroting the ZAD as a model for struggles here.

They also been, as with Inhabit, a lot into land projects, tho I'm pretty sure by now this was more of the same old reformist community gardening bullshit, with edgy revolutionary pretenses.

not gonna weigh in on Tiqqun etc, just popping in to say community gardens may seem reformist to you now, when you can go to the supermarket and purchase whatever. i would hazard a guess though that given the right circumstances you would not mind at all eating what is grown in one versus starving with your ideology intact.

have you ever studied history? even just like history of insurrections and armed revolts in the last half century? or do you just go off vibes

i dont need theory i have my own personal ideas that i developed by contrasting my liberal arts education with a parody of villainy as my WASP family imagines it. real history is deeply problematic and confusing and plus you have to read much of it and my extensive experience in higher education taught me that reading for adequate interpretations of events and historical materialism in general were colonial white supremacy culture so yeah i just go with the most lunatic sounding things i can think of especially if they allow me to shut down conversation with more serious people. my main enemy is the objective tone. i learned in school that using objective tone is white supremacy culture colonialism problematic and that i have the right to my own special little experience so i expect everyone to put hundreds of words disclaiming the incredibly partial and not at all serious nature of whatever they are going to say or write or else i just think its authoritarian just like thats so obvious

wow you must be a member of the portland anti-civ reading group. so glad i got out of there.

"my main enemy is the objective tone"

^this meme has legs lol

Thank you for sharing. Many us here in Americas also recognize tiqqunists as authoritarian trash.

"tiqqunist" is what liberal idpol nihilists call insurrectional anarchists
maybe in other countries its different. seems like it probably is. but in the US, that is just what this has become.

"Tiqqunists"... appelistas are NOT "insurrectional anarchists". If anything they are intellectual Maoists

oh we must not be talking about the US.

in the US, the people who read tiqqun are the same people who read --and developed much of -- the us IA tendency.

the "nihilists", by contrast, just kind of read like weird individualist interpretations of events combined with like astrology, queer theory, psychoanalysis, and "ontology" bullshit philosophy. they arent real nihilists, obviously, they are mostly like sweet up-talkers with with haircuts from places where the average civilian wears black or dark denim pants

Do you ever actually engage with anarchists offline? Are you a critic far away from actual anarchists?

In the US the "Tiqqunists" are also NOT insurrectionary anarchists. There is a small click of dorks that do some stuff that use the language of communization to get more ass and make themselves seem more important withing US anarchy than they actually are. There are some hangers on to that tendency that are bullies and appear to actually be doing things but in actuality they're no different from any other alpha personality that gloms onto actions. They're NOT insurrectionary anarchists any more than any other protester in the Forest that has a black bandana.

this is so funny. i am one of the so-called "tiqqunists" and spent basically the last 10+ years writing commentary and theory that 100% is in the tradition of insurrectionary anarchism. about 6 or 7 years ago the nihilists started gaining large strides in their counter-rev against anarchism (naturally, only in like 2 or 3 cities but they are very self important and vocal online, their preferred domain) and now believe that they are the insurrectos, when they are actually just engaged in scenester bullshit and occasionally doing highly decontextualized symbolic actions with like 2 other people. its pathetic. they dont believe in revolution, they dont believe that the role of the insurrectional minority is to catalyze mass upheaval. they arent anarchists. i dont even know why they are allowed to post their bullshit on our platforms.

Keep going! I'm loving this copypasta. This is a kick back to the glory days of Anews shitposting.

"Revolution" what is that?

Is this Trans-friendly or "class-reductionist"?

Is this based on normie appeal for "reaching the masses" or counter-cultural for a qualitative social rupture with the authoritarian world?

What is the "mass"? Who is *not* a minority?

What makes YOU believe you got what it takes to lead the masses to your global Great Evening set to happen in about 3-4 centuries?

Speaking of which... WHERE IS YOUR QUANTUM TIME MACHINE AND HOW CAN I HAVE ACCESS TO IT!? Thanks.

I got this, comrade.

Ahem. READ CAMATTE and DESTITUTE STUFF

Yes, will be waiting for your quantum machine blueprints to be posted so we can ALL take the lead to the Prescient Rev beyond space and time. Bye, Comraaaade!

you do realize that the so-called "tiqqunists" (insurrectionary anarchists) and the so-called "nihilists" (individualists) believe in like many of the same things? like you cant actually left-bait the people you are arguing with. they dont believe in mass organizations, they dont believe in waiting for spontaneous mass upheaval (although they do take part in it), they dont believe in coalition building with the soc dems and stalinists....

it is you who are the authoritarian, because you cant bare the idea of living in a world with ppl who believe in only 95% of what you believe in

actually you might be right. i also had just been kind of covering up my general fear of consequences and anxiety about public speaking with a highly self-referential and extreme sounding cynicism, which allows me to sound badass without having to follow through with any of my ideas or risking my social clout in my dating network (i usually try to just say like "pure hostility with civilization" or other mantras i can just kind of repeat whenever things start getting confusing)

very unsafe place to be vulnerable but i applaud your honesty!

you can totally follow through! the secret is to begin and stuff!

in the US, the people who read tiqqun are the same people who read --and developed much of -- the us IA tendency."

Yes, according to your statistics and social survey agency.

Btw I DID read Tiqqun 1 & 2, and Call back in the days. Just like I once read a lot of Das Kapital, The Communist Manifesto, some post-Marxian shit like Marcuse and Bordiga. I even read Mein Kampf back when I was some confused edgy teenager. That doesn't make me into endorsing any of these awful writings. early Invisible Committee writings were quite good regardless... I just can't stand their *movement*... i.e. that cult following that spread like molds since The Coming Insurrection in both France and US/Canada.

many of the people who are being called (((tiqqunist))) in the hyenas essays do not read tiqqun, have never read half of the marxist shit you are talking about, and dont know anything about france or french history. their common denominator is not about the theory, its about their desire to make plans, to have goals, to be ambitious, to try new things, to not be a crybaby, to not make all of their sentences sound like questions in that losery sjw way

So what did they do... table at anarchist bookfairs, start reformist land projects and occasional smashy-smashy? HOLY SHEEEET!

so ... any efficacy at all? sounds like you're describing anyone who isn't completely dysfunctional

""tiqqunist" is what liberal idpol nihilists call insurrectional anarchists"

RLMAO, nope, kid.

Ahh the invisible party of small business owners and back-to-the-land trust fund kids are afraid of losing their investments! Won't someone think of the property!!!

If only people would weaponize their wealth more for the rev than moralistically hide it. But this same stupid critique has been thrown at anarchists generally for ages. It's boring.

Yes, comrade, I wholeheartedly agree with you. Let's get this thing started, together.

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The gap between the quality of this article and the quality of these comments is fucking astonishing

This drivel of an article is even below the quality of even the worst comments here.

heh! i think it's fukin creepy how badly some of these commenters seem to want to believe in the power of their mythical commie conspiracy. serious cult vibes with all this zeal about how "they" are everywhere.

you already have plenty of real enemies, no need to hallucinate more

I think it's creepy how badly lumpy needs to defend communism in anarchy no matter the evidence or anecdote. It's as if his brain has been programmed to believe communism = good and that anarchists just need to do it correctly.

Creepy!

you've got ... what appears to be foam at the corners of your mouth?
it's gross. would you like a napkin or something?

Gotem

I'm glad someone finally said something like this. I dunno about the tiqqunist shit and I don't know the hyenas but I sure as hell know about being at occupations or blockades and a bunch of cool "insurrectionary nihilists" showing up in their cliques, calling everyone else authoritarians for trying to have conversations about what to do, and then just pushing their own agenda through secret in-group meetings with their friends. I can't even count how many times spokescouncils or assemblies have gotten shut down by some ideological nihilists in a cool kids club that only believes in breaking windows and is obsessed with calling out people for having different ideas but like won't let people self-organize. These hyenas sound just like the cool kids in all black who won't even talk to strangers.

They're honestly more vanguardist than anyone else because they just think they have the correct idea and everyone else is wrong, instead of talking to people. Like somehow these ppl think that they can make a revolution with just 10 of their best friends but they're ToTaLlY AuToNmOuS and nOnHiErArChIcAl.. I'd way rather hang out with people who actually want to talk about new ideas and brainstorm about shit instead of just repeating bla bla bla ATTACK bla bla bla all the time. Also seems like whoever wrote the original post was literally just like, yea, people should try different things and see what works so I don't get how that's secretly authoritarian .

the fact that people are almost only discussing the antisemitism part and not the rest of the piece is sincerely giving me pause.

Prolly because there's a blatant accusation of antisemitism that is not to be taken lightly as it is contributing to spreading disinformation and slander against pretty much anyone being critical of Tiqqunists?

Pretty rich for folks aligned with the INVISIBLE COMMITTEE who advocate forming transnational "parties" of "friends" to develop high level revolutionary strategy while remaining opaque and eschewing any political identifiers, to start complaining that they're being perceived the way they literally intentionally project themselves into the world. Like they're trying so hard to be a "shadowy cabal" you'd think they'd take this as as compliment rather than crying victim

that is basically how crimethinc presents itself as well, and how bakunin organized once upon a time, but people dont talk about them that way. it is true that this kind of approach is exactly what is needed. but the anarcho-stalinists (the hyenas etc) are going so ballistic against people they dont know or understand and are grouping together people who dont work together etc...honestly it is surprising that a piece like this didnt come out like 4 years ago

I love how vapid all the comments are to all this haha

And I just love how self-referential this comment is.

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