ANews Podcast 344 – 12.15.23

 ANews Podcast 344 – 12.15.23

From ANews Podcast

Welcome to this week’s podcast. This podcast is on anarchist activity, ideas, and comments from the previous week on anarchistnews.org

Notes:

What’s New
w/ chisel & grumble-fume!

TOTW: Land Projects
w/ special guests Logg, Petra & Vail!

Music & Samples:
“Going up the Country” – Canned Heat / WOODSTOCK ’69 

There are 12 Comments

Gardening feels passé, and is a fixation that fixes people to sedentary lifestyles, and global demands for seeds that putting shitloads of pressure on small distributors. It's not a way to be eco-sustainable... just a way to have extra goodies that are cheaper and healthier than from the supermarket. Fuck agriculture. get your goodies straight from the forest and/or the dumpster.

Who needs land projects when you can just start a forest town of nomadic Elves and Ewoks?

Because it offends the bourgeoisie, who pride themselves on status and tourism/travelling to exotic places all in support of the capitalist tourist industry and to impress their friends with their worldliness and sophistication by saying stuff like "OooOooh, we left the Hilton Hotel and flew to Mongolia and lived with a nomadic tribe for 1 week and oooOooh their peasant food (shipped frozen by the tourist company from New Delhi) was soOoo healthy"

fun conversation. would've been cool if some of the comments from the totw prompt had been included, like the relevance of people not doing everything together as a way to stay sustainable, etc. the conversation was VERY focused on food production, which is only one part of the topic.

the info about dashas was excellent and thought provoking.

yes to bolo'bolo for the most provocative anarchist-friendly utopian vision yet written

Thanks!

My joke about Russian Dachas and red scare podcast got excised by Octox which I think is probably for the best.

Something to think about is which relationships we are prioritizing when doing some land-prejecty thing. I've heard of a few land projects get messed up and fail cause they start out trying to "build the commune" and so they center the relationships between the people and when fractures happen the whole thing is fucked.

I suggest an alternative in which the relationship to place and land is at the center of the experiment. That way even if theres conflict between people, they are still invested in at least tolerating eachother enough to make sure they can still stay in the place and continue to build connection with the non-human beings there. I know an atmosphere of tolerance isnt a very utopian vision. But thats just how it is sometimes.

I live in a place right now thats roughly the size of a small bolo. A bunch of people dont get along but tolerate each other and will come together if there is a crisis or some other need. But most everyone has a deep appreciation for the place itself. So the social stuff is secondary. A lot of people dont even do any of the social things but they will do a lot so this place stays the way it is. I dunno just something to think about. Im still enthusiastically learning and plan to be for a long ever. I hope.

Also shoplifting is gathering and bipping luxury cars for the electronics inside is hunting.

I want a hunting class then. Whatever fucking happened to onion sites and their potential to support these kinds of crime, instead of boring drugs trade and pedo shit? Where is mah internet?

"I live in a place right now thats roughly the size of a small bolo. A bunch of people dont get along but tolerate each other and will come together if there is a crisis or some other need. But most everyone has a deep appreciation for the place itself. So the social stuff is secondary. A lot of people dont even do any of the social things but they will do a lot so this place stays the way it is."

sounds like a lot of neighborhoods i know, without woo woo wingnutty pretenses. i hate that these rehabilitated utopians just go straight to the normiest shit instead of anything subversive

Sure there are neighborhoods like that. But what I'm talking about is a group of people that has a multigenerational connection with a forest theyre living in. Urban neighborhoods are a different context and arent what i was talking about. The reason Im bringing this up is because the conversation is about land projects, which are not usually happening in urban neighborhoods.

But maybe you just wanna be on the internet poopooing peoples stuff and being a silly goose pretending you know about other strangers subversive activity. Oh well i guess.

"If you build it, they will come."

Nah, if they come, you may build it.

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