Episode 7: Anarchist Extremists - A National Perspective

  • Posted on: 27 June 2017
  • By: thecollective

A little late, but better late than never.

Homeland Security

From https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/media/podcast-episode-7-anarchist-ext...

Anarchist extremists believe that society should exist absent of “oppressive” governments, laws, police, or any other authority and they advocate violence in furtherance of submovements such as anti-racism, anti-capitalism, anti-globalism, and environmental extremism.

Over the past year, anarchists have carried out attacks against white supremacists during counter protests, have caused millions of dollars in damage to private and public property during riots, and have latched onto otherwise legal protests nationwide. In New Jersey, they have been largely nonviolent and focused on anti-racist action.

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Dropping nuclear bombs on people, mass human experimentation, torture, and imprisonment, as well as filling the ocean full of trash in the name of 'growth' aren't extreme behaviors. They're "normal." Okie dokie...

Since humans aren't in control of life on this planet, of reality, belief in control leads to a 'crisis of normalization,' where people are punished for intuitively rising to the occasion as a response to the underlying tension such beliefs in control engender relationally.

Think of it over.. this ain't as much about a 'belief in control' as it is an obedience to authority, and all the subjugation to normal conditions of oppression it brings.

And yes it is fully "normal". The only two nukes that were dropped on people was during the normal war context of WW2. You know... balance of power and all the strategic shit. When the war ended the whole military industrial complex seamlessly moved on to mass-produce an onslaught of commodity for the proles to be enslaved to. This was normal.

'Authority' being a belief in a certain type of human control, no?

Such beliefs have unintended consequences, 'externalities' if you will. So, humans don't have authority. We don't have access to a god's eye view of reality.

Are all things known throughout all times and in all spaces? No. Can they be at all times and throughout all space? No. So policing, for example is impossible as a totalizing practice. There will always be gaps in coverage.

'authority', 'normality' and 'truth' are words that have no 'meaning in themselves'. they only have subjective meaning according to custom, or habit or by mutual agreement of a group. They are like Nietzsche's explanation of 'truth';

"What, then, is truth? A mobile army of metaphors, metonyms, and anthropomorphisms—in short, a sum of human relations which have been enhanced, transposed, and embellished poetically and rhetorically, and which after long use seem firm, canonical, and obligatory to a people: truths are illusions about which one has forgotten that this is what they are; metaphors which are worn out and without sensuous power; coins which have lost their pictures and now matter only as metal, no longer as coins." — Nietzsche, ‘On Truth and Lie in an Extra-Moral Sense’

The existence of an 'independent sovereign state' with its 'supreme central authority' is a 'secularized theological concept' and the 'authority' of the state has no meaning in physical reality terms; e.g. an 'authority' may, by custom within a 'believer collective', be the issuer of 'orders' but a pride of lions would not be respectful of such a custom and people can behave like a pride of lions. Being 'legally authorized' to be an 'authority' and give orders, does not equip the 'authority-himself' with any physically real power; e.g. to 'herd cats'. Authority is a social relational arrangement [there is no such 'thing-in-itself' or 'force-in-itself' as 'authority'].

As for 'normality' it is defined relative to 'abnormality' which is defined as 'a statistically infrequent behaviour/phenomenon'.

including terms in discourse which have no meaning in the physical reality of our actual experience, like 'authority', 'normality' and 'truth', yet imputing them to have 'real meaning', makes discourse vague and exposed to the reader's subjective interpretation.

growing awareness of the inherent subjectivity and incompleteness of noun-and-verb semantic reality constructions has led to the realization of our living in a 'post-truth', 'fake-news' era.

'fact-checking' means little, since 'facts' are 'out of context' of the progressive development of phenomena ['the slave struck the slave-master'] and the accuracy of the recorded fact does not validate the context used in framing the fact;

“A ‘fact’ or ‘datum’ by itself is essentially meaningless; It is only the interpretation assigned to it that has significance.” – Robert Rosen

Experience is the sole source of truth and since our personal experience is unique, there is no 'truth in common'; i.e. no 'universal truth' or 'objective truth' see 'The post-truth era of Trump is just what Nietzsche predicted' by Alexis Papazoglou

The remedy to 'perspectivism' and the lack of any common truth is to listen respectfully to everyone's sharing of their experience [e.g. as in the 'learning circle'] and to engage on the basis of 'mutual aid'.

"What, then, is truth? A mobile army of metaphors, metonyms, and anthropomorphisms—in short, a sum of human relations which have been enhanced, transposed, and embellished poetically and rhetorically, and which after long use seem firm, canonical, and obligatory to a people: truths are illusions about which one has forgotten that this is what they are; metaphors which are worn out and without sensuous power; coins which have lost their pictures and now matter only as metal, no longer as coins." — Nietzsche, ‘On Truth and Lie in an Extra-Moral Sense’

'authority', 'normality' and 'truth' are words that have no 'meaning in themselves'. they only have subjective meaning according to custom, or habit or by mutual agreement of a group. They are like Nietzsche's explanation of 'truth';

As for 'normality' it is defined relative to 'abnormality' which is defined as 'a statistically infrequent behaviour/phenomenon'.

The existence of an 'independent sovereign state' with its 'supreme central authority' is a 'secularized theological concept' and the 'authority' of the state has no meaning in physical reality terms; e.g. an 'authority' may, by custom within a 'believer collective', be the issuer of 'orders' but a pride of lions would not be respectful of such a custom and people can behave like a pride of lions. Being 'legally authorized' to be an 'authority' and give orders, does not equip the 'authority-himself' with any physically real power; e.g. to 'herd cats'. Authority is a social relational arrangement [there is no such 'thing-in-itself' or 'force-in-itself' as 'authority'].

growing awareness of the inherent subjectivity and incompleteness of noun-and-verb semantic reality constructions has led to the realization of our living in a 'post-truth', 'fake-news' era.

including terms in discourse which have no meaning in the physical reality of our actual experience, like 'authority', 'normality' and 'truth', yet imputing them to have 'real meaning', makes discourse vague and exposed to the reader's subjective interpretation.

“A ‘fact’ or ‘datum’ by itself is essentially meaningless; It is only the interpretation assigned to it that has significance.” – Robert Rosen

'fact-checking' means little, since 'facts' are 'out of context' of the progressive development of phenomena ['the slave struck the slave-master'] and the accuracy of the recorded fact does not validate the context used in framing the fact;

The remedy to 'perspectivism' and the lack of any common truth is to listen respectfully to everyone's sharing of their experience [e.g. as in the 'learning circle'] and to engage on the basis of 'mutual aid'.
Experience is the sole source of truth and since our personal experience is unique, there is no 'truth in common'; i.e. no 'universal truth' or 'objective truth' see 'The post-truth era of Trump is just what Nietzsche predicted' by Alexis Papazoglou

"oppressive governments"? "All governments" just look at the list of belligerents in the Nigerian Civil War

But aren't we all belligerents in the civil war that goes on inside of us? You must defeat your inner oppressive government before anything can change...

Free Rojava
Free the Kurds
Long live Ocalan and the revolutionary struggle

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