Rise of Egypt's youth anarchist groups inevitable, dangerous

From Philstar The emergence of youth violent groups, and possibly their rising frequency on camera, are likely to create more social troubles and further hinder Egypt's way back to stability, analysts said.

The Black Bloc, a new anarchist group, along with other undeclared Egypt's youth groups, are getting addicted to vandalism to express their opinions, press the government to respond to their demands, while claiming that they are protecting protesters against the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) and security forces' oppressing practices.

"Violence VS violence," the Black Bloc wrote on its Facebook page. The group made its first appearance in the second anniversary of the Jan. 25, 2011 "revolution," by setting ablaze four buses belonging to the MB near the iconic Tahrir Square in the capital Cairo.

Masked and dressed in black from head to toe, members of the bloc resort to the "blackism" ideology based on chaotic and anarchic actions, said Samir Ghatas, chief of Cairo-based Maqdes Center for Political Studies.

As the expert puts it, two main reasons contribute to their emergence: first of all, the blurry political prospect in Egypt makes merely demonstrations unable to meet citizens' aspirations. "Violence is the key for youth who believed using peaceful political methods to make political change is no longer working," he said.

The second factor is the security forces' violent acts against the political activists, either by assassination or torture - as some people claimed, as well as the involvement of the civil MB members with the security forces during harsh investigations with protesters, said Ghatas.

On their Twitter page, the Black Bloc claimed responsibility for setting fire to police stations in Alexandria and Gharbiya governances and destroying the front walls of the security building in Beheira during "Checkmate" Friday, stating that they would target the presidential palace at Hada'eq al-Qubba in Cairo in different marches on Saturday evening.

For the anarchic acts, officials and state media depict them as conspiratorial saboteurs, but the opposition holds that the authorities are using the group as a scapegoat to justify a crackdown.

"Black Bloc or Ultras or other existed undeclared groups are not seeking political fruits, they are rejecting all state institutions, demanding revenge for their fellows and fight against fascist tyrants, the MB and their military wing," Ghatas said.

They even oppose the opposition Front for signing "Azhar document" which bans protesters from using violence, a tactic they claimed very basic in face of aggressive security acts.

The Black Bloc appeared to "defend" the protesters and " continue the revolution," describing themselves as "armor and sword" of the revolters, according to their statement. They also said that Sharia "Islamic rules" which the MB and the Salafists have asked to strictly apply, is a method for organizing life and spread freedom. As for Mamdouh Attyah, a strategic expert, the youth groups are not merely "groups or pages on the internet," they are resisting the administration by resorting to violence to "protect the citizens' rights" in reality. Attyah said although its members are enjoying enthusiastic youth soul, they lack the weapons and funding that might help in building groups with organizational structure or militias. He went on to attribute the shaping of such youth "pressures groups" to the tense political conditions, the lack of trust, and poor employment. "Those groups are dangerous because their actions, numbers, tactics are not predicted," Attyah warned. "The evolution of youth groups has become inevitable," Sameh Seif Al Yazal, a strategic and security expert said. Such groups are aspired by those who had lost their confidence both in the rulers of the country and the opposition movement who pursues solely individual benefits, he said, adding "These groups, whether Black Bloc or Ultras, are hard to be underestimated as one of the most important factors for the political work in Egypt."



Black Bloc is sexy.

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*Dr. Evil voice and air quotes*

"inevitable AND dangerous"

"addicted to vandalism"

This is late-breaking Ryan Harveyism. Fuck him a million times. Fuck Ryan Harvey. Fucking idiot. Let no one forget his shameful, stupid behavior. Fuck Ryan Harvey.

We hate Ryan Harvey! May his name be dragged through the mud for eternity! Ryan Harvey and Chris Hedges, sitting in a tree! B - E - T - R - A - Y - I - N - G all who defend themselves!

You're cute! You mention me every time you can. I like you.

We like you too -- in a tree with Ryan Harvey ON FIRE!!!!!!


Why do we hate Ryan Harvey so much?

The "are we addicted to rioting" piece still, or something new?

I have had some good times with Ryan Harvey.

So have I, he's a good dude , and I'm betting he's done a fuck of a lot more for modern anarchism than most anonymous posters here at @ news. Not that that puts him beyond criticism, but I know where his heart is, and I can tell you which team he's on.

Myself, I've been seeing him around since he was an annoying little kid, and although I wouldn't say anything against him in all caps, he was less annoying then. As for what team he's on, here's another question--what game is he playing?

Do ya'll have any idea how ridiculous you sound?

What are you 12 years old? At the very least you're a pathetic little wanker yelling threats at your computer. So brave!

Ryan Harvey is an "anti-capitalist" who mostly writes for progressive magazines. Its funny. You criticize capitalism all you want, but once you write for a Progressive magazine you're basically flushing any genuine beliefs down the liberal toilet.

What would be the better way (besides robbing banks and such) for an anti capitalist to make a living? We are all victims of capitalism, there is no "anti-capitalist" way to pay the bills we're all forced to pay. Everyday life goes against our genuine beliefs as anarchist, but just because we wish the world were different doesn't make it so. So, we try to change the things we can, constantly making compromises and try to come out dignified at the other end.

how about making a living the way most anticapitalists have made a living throughout history (and now) - working shitty jobs and selling ourselves. Its not about feeling good about our values or some BS - and anyway id feel just as shitty working fora dumb liberal mag (worse actually, like a hypocrite) than i do serving food at rich peoples parties. at least this way i get to spit in their appetizers and take home lots of food and booze, and talk to my co workers about how we hate humans who have 100,000 dollar weddings.

So we agree?

I think we agree that no matter what we're fucked, and we ll have to choose to do something we don't want to do. BUT i would argue theres a pretty big difference between working a wage job and choosing to write articles for a liberal mag that publishes ideas we explicitly hate. Maybe im crazy, but it feels pretty different to me. Granted, both are offerring our "services" to our enemies in some sense, but at least your average wage job isnt contributing to an ideological milieu that we have to fight once off the clock. Maybe im not being very articulate, but damn if writing some pro obama screed wouldnt feel WAY more disgusting than washing dishes. I can keep my dignity in some sense while plotting with my co workers at work; if i start writing in favor of people i hate, then ive really lost my soul....

Not to be all wobbly or whatever, but part of the difference too, aside from the fact that most of us dont have the financial or social capital to get jobs at shitty progressive mags (and also, that such capital is built up in part by denouncing more militant types, exactly as ryan has done- i didnt have to do that to get a catering job!) , is that at some shitty wage jobs you can take your politics with you, and use it as a place to organize or at least subtly spread your ideas and steal as much as you can. Im guessing ryan 's not stealing from mother jones or wherever the fuck - if he IS robbing them blind, and giving their computers and shit to infoshops or streetfighting youth or something nuts, then i totally take all this back and give him mad props. He s a sweet guy and all, i just think his politics are totally wack, and i dont think its a coincidence that folks who write shit like the "addicted to rioting" piece tend to end up as mouthpiece for progressive institutions while people who are in those riots tend to up in prison or dishpits....Both may represent a compromise, but i still think the "choice" (if we can call it that) represents something substantive.

That's clearly not hedges because hedges doesn't value direct confrontation.

And I get a nickel every time one of you two-bit anarcho-crybabies mentions my name.

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