Anarchy Radio: 09-03-2019

From John Zerzan dot net

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JZ really seems to hate Paul Kingsnorth and sex robots, but I think he doth protest too much...

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your point?

Do you think he asked for his show to be posted on here? He asked for the opposite. If you're gonna do petty internet drama at least know what you're talking about

The striking mistake that primitivists made was to assume that civilization was a product of technology, when infact it could be defined as the attainment of an equilibrium of the collective emotional and psychological well-being of a society. It is proposed that some stoneage indigenous cultures reached the peak of civilized existence because there was not a single case of mental disease, psychosis and depression amongst their population.
If JZ had focused on primitivism being a return to certain values, regardless of the technology, he would have attracted many more, though he would have been competing with the many zen groups also.
If you give a machine gun to a nazi or to a zen pacifist, its not the machinegun that must be removed, but the nazi values.

"The striking mistake that primitivists made was to assume that civilization was a product of technology,"

Huh? Sorry, that's not a primitivist idea. In fact, it's just the opposite: technology is a product of civilization.

"If you give a machine gun to a nazi or to a zen pacifist, its not the machine gun that must be removed, but the nazi values".

There were pacifist Nazis in Germany too. Just like there are militant Buddhists (e.g. Buddhist terrorists in Myanmar). So no, it's not merely the values, it's the technology, and the sense of legitimate of authority.

The same with the claim that technology is a product of civilization, its not directly, nor are pacifists necessarily against torture.
This will be deleted like my previous reply to you because stuff,,,.

Depends on how you define technology. In its broadest sense, technology includes Paleolithic tools, so technology could be considered a driver of civilization and therefore implicated in its cause. In the sense most primitivists are talking about, technology comes out of the social specialization of labor, which usually only occurs within civilization.

Controlled fire is a technology and the origin of all evil (including civ).
Why do you think the devil is depicted in hell as a fiery place?
The horns represent toxic masculinity, and the pointy tail represents the tip of a spear, a technology used to hunt and to dominate other species and people.

doesn't matter cuz i unironically agree

It's satire when i say it, serious when Ria says it

to be fair, i'll never be as learned as Ria who is smarterer, and lives betterer and gooderer

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