• Posted on: 21 July 2017
  • By: thecollective

From 325 by Eat (Indonesia)

It is sad to see “them” resorting to such incoherent, deluded, and even ahistorical if not unfactual analysis of contemporary anarchism and its various movements, successes and failures. It is even more sadder that the critique was poorly written. If the FAI never accomplished anything as the critique said, it is because FAI ideas were and are always to be put on trial of practice and its diverse variants. There is no monopoly of narrow individualism in the FAI as far as I comprehend it, as it is just an idea to encourage anarchists to attack with informal and antiorganisationalist forms (even this also is always within a context), because “it” [FAI] doesn’t believe in the binary logic that this critique does. While the critique seemed, at first, to try to dismiss a binary vision of the world it falls on the same mistakes when it doesn’t even know nor understand how they or their moralistic-triumphant-over-others-methods originated and empowered.

While I was in full support of ITS in attacking technocrats, NGOs, and its effort in deconstructing the western anarchist moralistic-christian tendency, they too fall to the same logic as their so “ideological enemies of gringo” anarchism.

This world doesn’t revolve around your ancestor, dear friend, and of course you cannot speak nor can understand anything about other gods and ancestors from different parts of the world. You don’t have any ideas or even understand the languages of Gong Solok Dayak of Borneo and their constant struggle against mining. You’ll also never understand my other part of ancestry of proud Northern Minahasan tribes, who, in the Tondano wars beheaded hundreds of Dutch colonials and also the Spanish in the island my great ancestors have lived. It is precisely because of this reason I consider myself as egoist-communist, why? Egoist in Stirnerist empowered me to understand myself and to stripped myself on any kind of values of subjugation and domination… the context of communism is to put the understanding of individuals and others concerning to common interests and needs: such as water and land. But you will never understand this because you already win and every other things are lost. You have achieved your absolute moral values. Congratulations, you have made your “movement” reached its end and ultimate goals. Is that your ancestor teach you about life and living? I am very doubtful, really. I Yayat U Santi.


… the ‘Anarchist Myth‘, is very painful to read not in terms of grammar but like there’s no point in there except that they were trying to convinced or critique every other tendency that they’re the best one, what the ultimate methods on how we perceived reality are and who we should react to it. Their critique on FAI is not rightly spot on because it seemed they never read the interexchanges of theories, debates, and praxis, especially pieces written by CCF. It is confusing enough to me here to decolonise insurrectionist discourse or antiauthoritarianism in general and the present dynamics of eco-extremism in South America (I hope they don’t represent the general tendency) makes me even more confused if not sad.

Why? Because I “hope” to see the other forms and unique “movements” stem from un-westernised insurrectionists, their early communiques were sharp … I was amazed, really, about how they’re not shying away from political killing… Now they seem more vague and abstract in the sense that they are abstracting an absolute moral value. It is just the same as the christian belief system but they sell the idea of defending nature and their ancestors (what kind of ancestor they were referring to?). I don’t dismiss their attentat but random killing? I don’t know. I would like to kill … people who were trying to kill me or my loved ones and I don’t care if it is politically correct to do or not as it is only natural. But their apologistic arguments makes me even more confused. I am not trying to defend the FAI because it is impossible to do so, as it is a practical movement, it will be always incoherent as it is not the goals nor end and for sure it is not the answer for all the questions and solutions in life. Such alternatives and claims are absurd and deluded. I am angry but at the same time I was also sad to read about how they [ITS] are progressing.




Wow two butthurt posts in a row! If you get one of your anarcho altars boys to translate this one you can make it a trio:

Just so long as these communiques keep whining about how there's a "fever" of lets all attack ITS, this will keep being hilarious.

Why does everyone hate you … it's just so MYSTERIOUS!

I thought you were the altar boy, Abe? You should really do more podcast appearances and continue to reveal how utterly ridiculous you really are. We're all embarrassed for you.

LOL! I was thinking the same fucking thing! How embarrassing it must be to defend a murder cult to a bunch of people that want a better world, right? It is nice to pretend they are saying something interesting or relevant...maybe even a little...nihilist...hmm? But really they are Unabomber throwbacks. The Brilliant keeps trying to make them seem more complex. I don't see what their agenda is, but maybe they don't understand that they are wrong and we already have better, more complicated understandings. Is it because they are a group of murderers instead of insurrectionaries or revolutionaries that makes them novel? They aren't even that clever, they are the adult version of the kids that eat paint chips and throw firecrackers at dogs.

The contemporary "post-left" egoist/nihilist tendency is doomed to a short shelf-life if there's nothing much it can manifest except a bunch of online circle-jerking. Certain writers and social media types tried to throw it on the coat-tails of a mexican murder-cult to give it some some badass swagger by proxy. This was a stupid idea and that's becoming more and more obvious.

this "mexican murder-cult" you're referring to has nothing (haha) to do with egoism or nihilism. learning what things mean is fun!

Says who? Who is to blame for the ass in the association? Is it John Zerzan's fault? Why are people connecting a highly moral hoax group with a bunch of lazy thinking amoral losers?

If only I'd get financially-compensated for thinking like I do...

Uhm … if you can't see the connections between the publishing, podcasting, and anarchopundit scene-making that's been going on around here, you can be "new" or you can be the subject of my pity. Whichever you prefer!

What about ITS is either egoist or nihilist? If you're unfamiliar with the meaning of these words I suggest you first understand them before embarrassing yourself with an answer.

Technically? Egoism, almost nothing and maybe a certain persuasion of active nihilism that rejects anything even vaguely resembling humanist values.

And yet, here we are, having this conversation on this particular platform! Also, don't think I don't notice what an arrogant prick you are, sweetheart. You're working hard at it and I want to acknowledge that ;)

Technically nothing is correct. Call me sweetheart again and I might get wet. Simmer down, tough guy.

I didn't MAKE the associate in the first place. I tend to hang around here, remarking on how this fascination with ITS is a case study of the horseshoe theory coming in to play. I identify as an egoist ffs, although I don't take myself too seriously. heh!

So what are you doing right now? Trying to distance your precious identity from this shit-show or just playing stupid little games of definitions cause you're bored or what?

Just waiting for that vein in your forehead to pop, pops.

Hold your breath while you wait ;)

Lol, I was just playing. It's all Rydra's fault and the spooky imagination of Bellamy that spread the group around a scene of whiny middle class degenerate rejects that beat off to snuff films but do little else.

Actually it is 325's fault. They were the first to publish their communique afaik.

what 325 published were communiques of anarchists (at the time).

Abe writes these fictions himself, threatens journalists, and trolls the web to find anarchists being mean to his fictional characters and threatens them too. Interestingly, Abe himself is never threatened by his fictional characters even when he says mean things like all the other folks who get threatened. Coincidence? I think not.

And I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling kids...

Ruh r'oh!

Look if Abe wants a cool primi code name let him have his cool primi code name. His writings seem way more mysterious and edgy that way, which is like super important when you're taking someone's satirical hoax communiques so seriously.

Or just embrace the murder bro. nothing is more nihilist than saying youre killing grandma and claiming that some explosion at a children's hospital was a bomb you put there.

"It is even more sadder that the critique was poorly written."
- It was even more sad to see that the critique was poorly written.

[sad is all things, sadder not so much]

IGTT 4/10

what is IGTT?

i believe IGTT means "I give this troll" and then a score out of 10. In this case, I only received a 4/10 for a weak attempt according to anonymous it appears. My post wasn't even to troll or hate, but simply to help out and yes, point out a little irony.

Mr/Ms sorry again for the grammar mistake. You said that you were trying to "help" and also point out a little irony? So enlightened me, please. Perhaps I can learn more and avoiding grammar mistake in the future.

No need for the Mr. or Ms, as that seems overly official, you can just say Rocinante.

I wasn't trying to be malicious or collect karma for pointing out what I think is a grammatical error in your writing. In the same sentence I pointed out the error, you also chimed in about how another text was poorly written, hence the irony.

While you can use the word sadder, you'd have to rearrange the sentence. For example, "It was even sadder that the critique was poorly written." vs the "more sadder" you originally had. I'm not an English professor, so perhaps even you are correct in using that, but it does sound awfully unusual to a 1st language speaker.

Sadder is the comparative form of sad. In English, the comparative form is usually formed by adding "-er" or using the word "more", so in a sense you made a double comparative (if there is such a thing) when you only needed one of those. That's all, keep writing, and looking forward to your other work. If you ever wanted someone to look over and edit your English in the future, I could probably help.

When I was referring "poorly written" I never meant about their grammar errors as I also knew my limitation concerning english languange. I was referring "poorly written" as something that was not quite understandable or as I was saying like there's no point in it (Anarchist Myth) article. Just that. Thank you.

You got the answer right. However, 4/10 is not great, but doesn't suck either. Like, you definitely got your troll on, even if you weren't looking for it and it was fun. Thank you for playing.

I Give This Troll

Oops sorry for the grammar mistake mr/ms.

Love u Eat! Fuck the haters. Your English grammar is way better than their Indonesian. How's Billy? When is part 2 of Empty House & Crowded Forest coming out?

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