What is wrong with Platformist/Especfist Groups like Black Rose, Love and Rage, FARJ and UAF?

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anon (not verified)
What is wrong with Platformist/Especfist Groups like Black Rose, Love and Rage, FARJ and UAF?

Really I want to understand what people believe are the short comings of these orgs. Are they unrealistic in what they can achieve? Are there methods of a new world that keeps doctrines of the old world like the division of labor, techno-industrial society, etc? Are they not fruitful? ETC....?

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I think the main shortcoming is that they are ineffectual.

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You will be hard-pressed to find any of your constituency making any meaningful impact on the economic, political, or social orders of the world as they exist today. That isn't to say that the ideas themselves are fruitless, but your constituency is largely disjointed and aimless in practice. In a bit of irony, your constituency's antipathy towards organization leaves it ill-equipped to effect meaningful change.

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anon (not verified)
Thanks dude, but some of us

Thanks dude, but some of us are lifestyle anarchs and we have no intention of waging any violent resistance. Instead we project our brilliant ideas out into the media continuum and win converts by example and by empathic desire. We are not leftist fools.

anon (not verified)
these two answers perfectly delineate one of the binaries

that anarrchst projects are measured on. is it effective (how effectiveness is measured; what makes something effective vs lucky vs a product of the times vs other things; what is left out when effectiveness is the main or only criteria) is one lens/set of blinders.

then there's the question of how deeply a project is questioning the status quo. some people would say that far from being ineffective at creating a different world, platform organizations are actively recreating some of the problems of the current world (organization itself being a problem, for example, or the idea that anyone would/should "win converts", etc.)

then there's the question of how well an organization lives up to its own rhetoric.

anyway, the answer to your question depends a lot on who you're asking, and what your own understanding of anarchy (or anarchism) is.

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