insurrectionists, nihilists, and queer anarchists are constantly railing against the identity politics endemic to liberalism, which has wormed its way into anarchism by way of the would-be-revolutionaries who view anarchy simply as an intensification of liberal goals. but, most of the time, arguments against idpol focus on the nonsensicality and indirectly oppressive nature of identity itself…and with few concrete examples ever offered of the material harm idpol can do, it’s easy to get the impression that we complain about it simply because of the abstract ways in which an identitarian mindset and praxis can lead to reinforcement of oppressive structures.
while it’s true that idpol is nonsensical, abstract, and indirectly oppressive, and it would be plenty of reason to oppose identitarian tendencies on that basis alone, they also create bigger problems that result in much more tangible and imminent threats, like the failure of American anarchists to sabotage the construction of a concentration camp in the Florida Everglades, out of a fear of alienating local indigenous groups.
when Trump took office the U.S. government and their allies immediately began building concentration camps in various places around the world, including one notorious site within the U.S; Alligator Alcatraz.
when construction began, activists of various backgrounds and political leanings began protesting, and petitions were circulated by the ACLU, Amnesty International, and lots of other groups, begging fascist politicians to be less fascist. some individuals—disillusioned with democracy and “legitimate forms of protest”, but too far away to get directly involved—suggested local Floridians take inspiration from the E.L.F., the A.L.F., and more recent opposition to Cop City in Atlanta.

the response from Florida-based “anarchists” like, Skunk Ape Liberation Union, was a resounding “No.”, but (at least ostensibly) not out of a fear of potential risks like getting shot or arrested. the so-called anarchists simply felt it was not their place to take control of the movement, opting to let local indigenous organizers lead, simply because of their race. multiple supposed anarchists in Florida explicitly said they were stepping back to let local indigenous groups lead the movement. those indigenous activists wanted to use nonviolence, so the “anarchists” urged everyone to stay docile.
this essay comes to mind.
we, at anomie press and the NVEP, would never insist that anyone must sacrifice themself—their safety or freedom—for “the greater good” or anything like that, but it’s one thing to simply choose not to take a risky action because of the risks involved, and it’s another thing entirely to vocalize opposition to the prospect of anyone taking direct destructive actions in opposition to fascism, because of how those subversive actions may upset the more liberal-minded “POC” “activist” “allies”. which is exactly what multiple “anarchists” in Florida did.
and, to the surprise of the liberals (including the ones calling themselves anarchists) and no one else, the nonviolent tactics accomplished nothing. the detention facility was built, opened, and used. and it’s still being used today (December, 2025). fascists built a(nother) concentration camp in the United States, and a number of “anarchists” decided it was more important to appease the liberals than to oppose the fascists.
this is, of course, a microcosm of a long-running trend of liberals trying to control anarchists by insinuating that 1.) anyone using direct action is a straight white cis male, and 2.) straight white cis men experience no oppression, and are morally obligated to follow the leadership of Oppressed Peoples™ who all are inherently more educated and capable of understanding the consequences of different tactics, and developing safe and effective strategies. we counter by stepping back to let the ineffectiveness of the liberals’ strategies speak for itself.
idpol has been used to defend oppressors countless times before, like when feminists got mad at rioters for breaking cop car windows during protests against police violence in Seattle in 2011, and tried to turn the rest of the protesters against what they called the “manarchists” in their midst (because violence and destruction are inherently male actions, of course, so any rioter must be a man), and when Black Lives Matter organizers physically got between angry rioters and scared cops to protect the police from the crowds during the 2020 riots in NYC, presenting themselves as representatives of The Black Community™, acting like they had a right to determine how everyone protests, and since some of the black people present were apprehensive about violent tactics, that somehow translated into a moral imperative that everyone must be nonviolent…but Florida 2025 might be the most clear example of idpol directly and explicitly defending our oppressors’ efforts to consolidate and exercise power, directly leading to more oppression.
- fascists began building a concentration camp
- direct sabotage was proposed
- the use of effective tactics was rejected due to identity politics
- liberal tactics (protests, petitions, social media posts) did nothing to prevent the facility being completed and opened (big surprise there)
- people are now incarcerated in a concentration camp
it’s true that idpol is always cringe, nonsensical, and fucking annoying, giving off “i majored in liberal arts with a minor in humanities at Berkeley” vibes, and that is more than enough reason to punch anyone who promotes it, but it goes so much deeper than that. identitarianism only benefits our enemies and kills any insurrectional, revolutionary, and subversive potential. and that costs real people their freedom, and sometimes their lives. idpol puts people in material mortal danger, when it dissuades activists from dismantling the apparatuses fascists are using to oppress us.
all liberal tendencies need to be fully excised from the anarchist milieu immediately. anyone continuing to promote idpol at this point is not an anarchist, or an “ally” – they’re on the fascists’ side. whether they know it or not.
Comments
This article is the liberal…
anonymous (not verified) Tue, 12/09/2025 - 16:54
This article is the liberal identity politics it complains about. Why would anarchists be concerned with an immigration detention center? Anarchists have transcended such identities as immigrant and citizen. Only a liberal would focus on an immigration detention center. An anarchist would concern themself only with oppression in general.
Speaking from the safe &…
anonymous (not verified) Wed, 12/10/2025 - 15:01
In reply to This article is the liberal… by anonymous (not verified)
Speaking from the safe & comfy top of that state-built ivory tower, I see?
"Why would anarchists be concerned with an immigration detention center?" Because until all are free, you anarcho-Trumptard.
"Until all are free"
anonymous (not verified) Wed, 12/10/2025 - 20:28
In reply to Speaking from the safe &… by anonymous (not verified)
Wtf does this cringe slogan even fkn mean anymore bro?
When you think about it it really makes no fucking sense.
How is protesting a migrant detention camp going to increase my freedom, exactly? And as for riskier stuff.. yeah, no, that sounds like a pretty neat way to get fucking shot or thrown in prison, but ok. What a dumbfuck slogan. You can move to the Yukon and live like a hermit, bit somehow yall wouldn't be free in that situation...why? Cuz some mfs are in a jail in Florida?
Lmao, and is this what "we are nihilists, Mr. Lebowski. We believes in nothingssss" amounts to, ultimately? Liberalism premium plus, with dark mode enabled?
You are only truly free if…
anonymous (not verified) Thu, 12/11/2025 - 03:57
In reply to "Until all are free" by anonymous (not verified)
You are only truly free if you have mastered your autonomous self-awareness.
That's the voice of…
anonymous (not verified) Thu, 12/11/2025 - 13:48
In reply to "Until all are free" by anonymous (not verified)
That's the voice of resignation and even peaceful complicity. Like that of those who just let the trains to the Death Camps pass.
"Freedum" is a social construct. It's got no meaning outside of social relationships, as it becomes a de facto, namelsss state of being.
Ok
anonymous (not verified) Fri, 12/12/2025 - 07:22
In reply to That's the voice of… by anonymous (not verified)
So then I take it that, unlike me, you're on your way rn to go blow up the migrant alligator death camp bc you're such a righteous nihilist, hm?
Don't let the trains pass, bro!
Now wait... you're the MAGA…
anonymous (not verified) Fri, 12/12/2025 - 07:52
In reply to Ok by anonymous (not verified)
Now wait... you're the MAGA asshole who first came in to play nihilist pope and rule them out as real nihilists, because they're not enough protesting for *your* freedumb but instead for "illegals" held in cages to be sent to Nicaragua, right?
Wrong
anonymous (not verified) Sat, 12/13/2025 - 13:14
In reply to Now wait... you're the MAGA… by anonymous (not verified)
I think "protesting", of any kind, is unfathomably fake and pathetic. Lol, you keep on unironically saying "freedumb" like your someone's unbelievably liberal chronically-on-facebook boomer uncle at the thnxgiving table, just totally out of touch with how lame and cringe it makes you sound.
May I ask how old you are?
But yeah, no, I never said anything about anyone doing anything for me or anyone else in particular lol gg try again unc.
4 u, idiot: https://www…
anonymous (not verified) Sat, 12/13/2025 - 23:02
In reply to Wrong by anonymous (not verified)
4 u, idiot: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=freedumb
Lol good one unc
anonymous (not verified) Sun, 12/14/2025 - 18:27
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I didn't ask you what it meant ahaha I asked whether you knew how lame and cringe it makes you sound. You call yourself nihilistic, and yet your terminology reveals your true colors. The fact you use "freedumb" like its this totally sick burn makes you virtually indistinguishable from your local brainwashed DSA intern.
True nihilism is about possessing an intractable skepticism aimed at making void the very core notions of all meaning and value. Your position, on the other hand, is obviously shot thru with moral-value judgements that are virtually identical to literally anything I'd find on the brochure of an HR department to any of the Forbes 500 corporations.
I know it's hard for you to wrap your low IQ BernieBro-brained binary way-of-mind around this, but you can neither approve nor disapprove of a thing (trains to a death camp, for example), and simply accept things exactly as they are in the cosmic scheme of things with equanimous indifference.
Welcome to actual nihilism, b****
A new edict from the…
anonymous (not verified) Sun, 12/14/2025 - 20:57
In reply to Lol good one unc by anonymous (not verified)
A new edict from the Nihilist Jerk Pope (12/14/2025 at 18:27): "
"True nihilism is about possessing an intractable skepticism aimed at making void the very core notions of all meaning and value."
He said it, yes yes! Now read carefully, little nihilist wannabes, as you will OBEY or else you're out of Nihilist Church.
Yes, unironically
Nihilist Pope (not verified) Mon, 12/15/2025 - 09:21
In reply to A new edict from the… by anonymous (not verified)
Nihilism absolutely needs to be gatekept from the liberal boomer doofuses seeking to give their soggy biscuit activism a fresh coat of matte black paint.
But then theirs the insistence on
CalvinSmith Mon, 12/15/2025 - 12:40
In reply to Yes, unironically by Nihilist Pope (not verified)
"tr00 nihilism", which means you already betrayed the cause if you speaketh it.
Whoever seeking to erase the…
anonymous (not verified) Mon, 12/15/2025 - 12:41
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Whoever seeking to erase the very existence of immigrants is a fucking Nazi in the first place, not a "nihilist". And that's what you poorly attempted to do here... i.e. erasing the very political construct of the immigrant identity, as well as trying to undermine any sort of support to their basic rights. Therefore, there's no such thing as migrants being held in cages for later deportation... so let's help Trump disappearing them completely from existence!
Haha, not gonna happen
anonymous (not verified) Wed, 12/10/2025 - 12:24
You say all of this while puffing your chest about being a nihilist, but in my experience, some of the biggest pushers of idpol have, in fact, been people self-identifying as nihilist, insurrectionary, and queer anarchists. None of these labels are safe from being co-opted or really mean much in the end since there's nothing to stop idpol libs from tacking these onto themselves like trendy fashion accessories, only to fall back on old patterns of residual lefty liberalism and fucking ruin everything.
What you need to do is gatekeep the fuck out of your movements. Nobody seems to want to do this because so many people are scared of being labelled XYZ and ostracized, but when the liberals come around, you need to scoop your fuckin nuts and let them know:
THE. GATE. IS. FUCKING. CLOSED. MF.
Another half-baked analysis...
CalvinSmith Fri, 12/12/2025 - 16:42
The lunderlying logic appears to be that "because people choose the milquetoast/liberal reformism as an activism strategy, they are to blame for the 'concentration camps'"
Not good enough...plz use better arguments. But oh wait, reasonable arguments fall flat...
"the use of effective tactics was rejected due to identity politics"
I feel you're taking this on faith. The illegalist shit gets rejected out of self-preservation. The cops are proof of the effectiveness of violence, but please stop with the "pacifists are ruining our movement" shit. If you're an interesting person, please drop out of activism.
So what's their excuse?…
God King Sun, 12/14/2025 - 20:47
So what's their excuse? Wouldn't them doing even less than this Skunk Ape group make them a liberal or fascist or something... ? sigh. They clearly live in the area and seem very upset this Skunk Ape group didn't do as they fantasize about (probably while watching riot porn). If effective tactics of direct sabotage were proposed, why not try one out themselves? Do they need this Skunk Ape group for something? This Skunk Ape group is like 3-4 middle age men afaict.
I'd love to see what these effective tactics of direct sabotage were. It'd help explain why they were rejected. The because idpol just doesn't cut it as a valid explanation. I have the feeling it had nothing to do with idpol and more because they were all around terrible ideas of a naïve early 20 year old that'd lead to insta-jail time.
^^^100% this on steroids. I…
anonymous (not verified) Sun, 12/14/2025 - 22:09
In reply to So what's their excuse?… by God King
^^^100% this on steroids.
I WAS A TEENAGE LIBERAL NIHILIST KAMIKAZE ACTIVIST WHO BECAME ENLIGHTENED IN THE ANEWS COMMENTS SECTION AND LEARNED HOW TO CHILL THE FUCK OUT
This, I can agree a LOT more…
anonymous (not verified) Mon, 12/15/2025 - 06:58
In reply to So what's their excuse?… by God King
This, I can agree a LOT more than that nihilist cop above telling us you can't be protesting anything or even believe in "immigrants" when you're a nihilist.
lmao omg
Pope of nihilism (not verified) Mon, 12/15/2025 - 12:05
In reply to This, I can agree a LOT more… by anonymous (not verified)
you're such a pathetic little crybaby. No one is telling you you "can't" do anything, let alone writing you up for it -- I'm just sayin', you suck lol.
If you wanna go do your cringe activist LARP-thing, go ahead ig. Seems pretty full of moral value propositions and futile graspings at meaning, but ok.
Listen... nihilism is obviously too much for your weak soul to handle, and that's ok. There are lots of other cool words for you to try on that I think might fit you better: There's liberal... There's progressive... There's socialist... There's cuck...
Fits you like a glove :)
My beloved anews:(
SirEinzige Wed, 12/17/2025 - 04:34
What the fuck has happened to my beloved anews:( Who are those newer moronic commentators.
No u.
anonymous (not verified) Wed, 12/17/2025 - 08:23
In reply to My beloved anews:( by SirEinzige
No u.
the assertion is made that -…
anonymous (not verified) Wed, 12/17/2025 - 13:01
the assertion is made that - "the use of effective tactics was rejected due to identity politics", implying that sabotage is the effective tactic here.
let's let that scenario play out . . . . a bunch of manly, tough, badass anarchists set out into a Florida swamp with explosives and what not to render a soon to be concentration camp into rubble. Let's say this move is effective. Do you think the government stops there? Is that the end of rounding up people and putting them in camps? is that the end of building such places?
not that that's a reason not to try, but sometimes maybe the locals have a clearer grasp of the situation on the ground in their area. maybe, tough guy, find a facility closer to home and do shit there.?
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