exclusive symbol

I was discussing the Occupy Movement and Pro-Palestine Encampments with some folks and someone asked why these movements failed to become "mainstream" as opposed to spaces for primarily already radicalized and marginalized populations. Putting aside that I believe this perspective is too simple, as I saw non-radicalized folks in the spaces and why would we make a separation between "marginalized" and "mainstream"? What does "marginalized" mean?, I wanted to examine the base assumption that "more accessibility" is somehow better or makes our movements more effective.

I am reminded of Dave Foreman's idea that, "Another parameter is that we aren’t interested in credibility or legitimacy with the gang of thugs running this planet. [...] So why should we care if we have any legitimacy? If we have any credibility? [...]  So when you’re called irrational, don’t worry about it. We’re irrational, and proud.”Earth First! 13, no 2. 1987. Did Occupy or the Encampments need to be understood among the world leaders? The middle classes? The underclasses? What is the metric of how much we ought to appeal and to whom? Are we engaging with specific classes in a Marxist sense of educating the proletarian and non-proletarian working classes? Bakunin's interest in the lumpenproles? What about efforts to organize on identity lines, say gender or racial. Not to say there isn't room for identity-specific spaces, of which I can sympathize. But this feels different from the issue of organizing for social change. 

Even theory can be challenged as "inaccessible"! I've shared many essays and books only to be told "I feel this had a lot of ideas I needed to understand before" or "The wording was too difficult." If every theory, any expression of an idea, has to begin at Square One, we will never say anything unique. To hold everyone's hand and assume ignorance can only be overcome through spoon-feeding, this feels a reflection of our brain-rot, anti-intellectual society. Even groupings, be them affinities or not, can engage in exclusivity. I've been in groups who had strict vetting and did not just allow any and all into the workings of the group & we were derided as "elitist" for this. Someone once reduced us to a "group chat" and couldn't understand why he couldn't just join.

I wonder if appealing to sections of people, such as classes or identities, is the best (maybe this is also a bad conception!) method for propaganda, outreach, and education. Why aren't we appealing to individuals, temperaments, informal groups? To make a monolith of theory and outreach will always fail to confront reality and can be off-putting to those who feel excluded by the apparent universal (Catholic!) theory. 

Maybe instead, a level of exclusivity can be good. Not in a Leninist model of the educated revolutionaries, but of the coming together of those who already know and respect themselves as already engaged in the work. Abandoning principles for populism is not something I have interest in. Sadly, I can imagine a response being, "We can make our theory accessible, without reducing the meaning or rigor or truth." Yeah, if that was the case, we'd all be self-identifying revolutionaries! We have plenty of this so-called accessible theory in zines, abridged readings, tiktok videos, and podcasts, yet here we are! 

Questions

  1. What is the line between accessibility and populism/demagoguery? 
  2. Does an interest in exclusivity open us to authoritarianism?  
  3. A broader question: Why have mass movements so far failed to produce social change?

 

Comments

SM (not verified) Sun, 06/07/2026 - 12:59

First I think we need to establish who we’re responding to when talking about accessibility and exclusivity. Since the Obama-era the ideas around accessibility have changed and its use a sort of rhetorical sledgehammer to flatten anything with a subversive edge rather than to dismantle social barriers has increased. Ridiculous social media assertions bled out into real life and suddenly reading theory wasn’t accessible, according to first year college students in reference to lower classes of people they avoided on the street. These days that sledgehammer has been swung almost entirely in service of overtly liberal concerns that see the problem not as society overall but that radical politics need to be thoroughly policed and sterilized before they can even proceed out the door. It’s these people and this aspect of the topic that should be ignored and left adrift as it’s the only real battle some of them desire to fight.

Now that that’s out of the way…

Regarding the mentioned movements, Occupy, depending on which camp we’re discussing, attracted people from a broad cross section of classes and backgrounds. If one uses the typical Marxist metric, which is always free for them to alter to their liking, it didn’t do much of anything because the classic representatives of the working class like factory workers and coal miners apparently didn’t join in on the occupations, which ignores the sea change of retail and service workers having become the bulk of the working class, and the number of under/unemployed and homeless that found their ways to the various camp sites. It’s clear that both “mainstream” and “marginalized” people were very present in that movement, despite leadership roles being bandied about by latently Marxist university activists and careerist organizers who would be the ones to most likely harp on about a lack of “mainstream” participants.

The pro-Palestine camps, however, established their own limitations before the tents were even finished being hammered down, save for a few of the more notable occupations. Numerous communiques from around the country came out within the first couple weeks detailing who was and wasn’t allowed in the camps, what the explicit politics of the camps was going to be, and how some camp leaderships capitulated to university bargaining within a matter of days. The character of the pro-Palestine movement has yet to breach student-led(only) mobilizations, made up entirely of kids who get their political education via quick-cut TikTok videos with horrendous information; a student movement that still maintains a class component that refuses to dissolve itself thanks to the almost intentional absence of class politics (with really bad racial analyses supplanting their “main contradiction”) in this new brand of anti-imperialism/third worldism. There was a very vocal refusal of even defensive violence when under attack from the police or zionists purely for the sake of optics, a pathetically middle class concern, and some camps even refused to reach out into the neighborhoods that their universities were gentrifying. Its inability to grow into a broader movement (forget generalizing the struggle itself a la the September 2025 general strike in Italy) was cemented from the outset. World leaders were never gonna pay them real attention.

Suffice it to say, in many ways, accessibility and exclusivity are arguments used to discredit some imperfect movements, but are also real means employed to maintain the illusory perfection of others.

Concerning the anarchist space, I think accessibility (the creation of inroads, openings and general attraction to projects, actions, and the space/movement) is a clear aim, despite what the upturned noses of old cynics like myself tend to indicate. The where and how is always up for dispute but we are all ultimately searching for a means in which to concretize liberated expressions of life, and in many ways that looks like an activity that requires quite a few people. Minimizing, blurring, or erasing our ideas and politics won’t direct us toward who we’re looking to create that life with and I don’t think it’s at all exclusionary or inaccessible to exist in a way that is outright unattractive to some people. Cultivating certain types of exclusivity with public projects can only be maintained through authoritarian means (like the pro-Palestine camps), which is why wearing our more unattractive, less universal ideas on our chests would be preferable. Those who eventually come around, will.

Eventually the question of organization, our perennial quagmire, and who/what/how to do it starts to find clearer paths through practices that aren’t mired in more marxist or liberal concerns around ameliorating static features of a social life we’re looking to destroy. There’s no pretending that identity lines don’t motivate further social and political organization, or that anarchists are so beyond those lines as an every day reality, but there is a difference between valorizing victimhood and propelling the socially excluded toward contesting our exclusion. This is partially why I prefer the way Weir, Bonanno, et al. talk of the excluded vs. included and how anarchists see and position ourselves within that dynamic, as a matter of understanding that having such brash ideas doesn’t dislodge us from the material reality we allege to fight against, and that the our fights are going to converge with those who might have no interest in us, as they might not have much interest in other non-anarchists also battling their way across the same terrain. It’s the practices we establish prior to us meeting that I find to be the most important, so that when we finally do meet there’s no confusing who we really are. But that’s also if anyone actually encounters us.

American political engagement at this point resembles the way that younger and younger people engage with anything, really: memetically, wholly as fandom, for the purpose of self-creation that ends at the social media bio. I think that’s largely due to isolation and the lack of some crucial external features that are necessary to have grounded political ideas. People living in major cities that are more likely to have a visible radical presence can find others to bounce some whacky ideas off of, whereas those stuck in the middle of nowhere surrounded by conspiratorial wingnuts might have a harder time seeing how their brand of anarcho-stirnerite-larouchianism(ukraine flag)(palestine flag)(north korea flag) lands in reality. I think a problem that we who found our politics through more ancient channels like DIY punk have yet to really grasp is that the old ways in aren’t frequented like they used to be, if they aren’t just fully dead. CrimethInc. saw that clear as day, hence their shift toward cringey anarcho-populism… which is actually working for them. They established practices around a particular theory of accessibility by making a lowest-common-denominator-anarchism palatable to more impressionable liberals, while neither excessively challenging their views nor totally acquiescing to demagoguery, and they’re succeeding in their own mission. But none of that elides the very fair criticisms leveled at them by their peers.

In the end none of us can really be held to account for not affecting social change. We’ve always been a minoritarian crowd, and although some of our street tactics and aesthetics have found their influence, our day to day practices still can’t grow real roots. Years of intense governmental repression, the short lifespan of most participants (often relegated to youthful phases), the fracturing of entire scenes with no infrastructure to speak of: all of these contribute significantly to a political scene with big aspirations but little show for itself. Whether or not social change is (im)possible, nevermind if our wild ass ideas are "accessible", is of no concern because the desire for something other than the world we have is enough to draw the curious. Creating and maintaining openings for those curious people, being able to meet face to face, and will those wild ass ideas into existence should be our greatest concern.

Sorry for the long comment, I've been obsessing over this topic for the last several years.

anonymous (not verified) Sun, 06/07/2026 - 14:46

I agree 100%, some things just aren't for you, and if you want them to be YOU might have to do the necessary work to understand, rather than people catering to you.

1. when I have to change my language so much that it ultimately changes the meaning of what I'm saying.

2. not any more than inclusivity.

anonymous (not verified) Sun, 06/07/2026 - 21:18

Wow. Starting your text with a quote from eco-fascist Dave Foreman as a premise... not exactly a clever choice.

anonymous (not verified) Mon, 06/08/2026 - 06:32

In reply to by anonymous (not verified)

what makes it "not clever"? do we only quote from people we entirely agree with now? or are you merely trying to change the topic to foreman's politics instead of addressing the topic? 

what's your point? speak in full sentences.

anonymous (not verified) Tue, 06/09/2026 - 08:29

In reply to by anonymous (not verified)

"eco-fascist"? really? don't be such a dope. he had many specifics one could be very critical of, but smearing the "fascist" label on him is just lazy, stupid, and opportunistic. unless, of course, like most idiots today, you use the term for everything you don't like (me no like, bad=fascist).

anonymous (not verified) Tue, 06/09/2026 - 13:02

In reply to by anonymous (not verified)

Been living in a cave or Montana for thr last 30 years or so? Foreman being a racist & eco-fash is well-documented. But if you've been in denial all these years then why should I waste my time and efforts linking you to the evidence?

anonymous (not verified) Tue, 06/09/2026 - 14:26

In reply to by anonymous (not verified)

Dave Foreman:

“While I still believe that massive and unlimited immigration into any country is a serious problem, I do not support beefing up the Border Patrol and the other agencies that try to keep Latin Americans out of this country. I do not think that this is a realistic or ethical response to the underlying problem."

“While I agree that the population question can be approached in narrow, racist, and fascistic ways, I strenuously reject the idea that any and all ecologically grounded concerns about human overpopulation are racist and fascist."

“Is it racist and fascist, for example, to propose making birth control methods and devices, including the abortion pill and sterilization, freely available to any woman or man in the world who desires them?”

Max Stirner (not verified) Thu, 06/11/2026 - 07:58

In reply to by anonymous (not verified)

This supposed to be a gotcha? The American anarcho lib cannot fathom the concept of limited space & resources, ironically enough because their forefathers killed off the natives and delivered a wasteland. Planet can only support 2 billy, we're at 8 and counting, don't think feel good slogans are gonna cut it.

anonymous (not verified) Thu, 06/11/2026 - 09:30

In reply to by Max Stirner (not verified)

to the "max stirner" above...
first, i think the post you're responding to is indicating that foreman was not a fascist but argued for things that some people associate with fascists. i could be wrong tho

second, while i agree with there being more people than i think is great, the people who promote "what the planet can support" generally also have big agendas that presumably you wouldn't agree with. if that's not true, and you have a source that has not been associated with anti-immigration, racist, eugenic type shit, then perhaps you will cite it (or them).

Max Stirner (not verified) Thu, 06/11/2026 - 10:11

In reply to by anonymous (not verified)

Did cross my mind but then again, it's anarchist news. Fifty fifty odds someone's a crank. And fash are associated with lots of things, like eating, taking a shit, contemplation and so on, not really a feasible line to draw.

I don't agree with myself half the time bruv, the unconscious etc but then I'm not hanging out in some insurrectionist affinity group jazz handing everything either. Source was the alt right BRITISH BROADCASTING CORPORATION but if Satan himself said it, I would go fair dos cause studies are studies. https://www.bbc.co.uk/future/article/20220905-is-the-world-overpopulated

Not really keen on the buzzwords either. Positive prescreens for disabilities in the womb and aborting would be considered eugenics, suggesting somewhere like Fiji or Luxembourg can only physically handle so many people could be construed as racist or xenophobic. Even white natives moving from one city to another in a heavily crowded Europe is disrupting the equilibrium of places. This American framing is a luxury the rest of the world can't be fucked with any more.

Meany (not verified) Thu, 06/11/2026 - 10:11

In reply to by Max Stirner (not verified)

Saint Max would be ashamed of your feeble egoist cosplay of calling out (and misinterpreting) "feel good slogans" while parroting authoritarian eugenicist "science" slogans. I know this definitively because science.

If you truly think what you say then you have a lot of killin' to do and best not waste your time seeting on niche anarchist websites. Go now, planet savior! Your native forefathers demand it!

Max Stirner (not verified) Thu, 06/11/2026 - 13:03

In reply to by Meany (not verified)

Where are you seeing the word kill lad. I'm just suggesting condoms, the morning after pill, celibacy or pulling out like your mother suggested. Don't think shouting FREE PALESTINE is going to bring down the birthrate but maybe I'm wrong?

GO3 Thu, 06/11/2026 - 18:08

In reply to by Max Stirner (not verified)

I prefer the rhythm method myself. And by the way for those who want to distinguish themselves from the fascists I started an inactive club. Don't worry you don't have to do anything.

GO3 Thu, 06/11/2026 - 18:13

In reply to by GO3

I searched the carrying capacity of the Earth which is 12 billion maximum and 2.5 billion for optimal quality of life. I know y'all are into science so we need to talk about this calmly. I would be willing to have less so others could have more.

Meany (not verified) Fri, 06/12/2026 - 07:57

In reply to by Max Stirner (not verified)

What is this eugenicist dogshit doing on my beloved Anews?!?

Look, "lad", who do you think will be forced to comply with this brainwashing and these measures of "bringing down the birthrate" and who do you think will be forcing them to comply while freely continuing to populate the world in their own image?

Saint Max farts in your general bootlicking direction.
Don't be an authority-cuck.
This is an anarchist website.

anonymous (not verified) Thu, 06/11/2026 - 17:44

In reply to by Max Stirner (not verified)

Fuck off, Desert Malthus. These are all self-serving assumptions meant to defend your birthright privilege. A thousand Walmart suburbans ate way more harmful than a million of car-less, struggling poors.

anonymous (not verified) Sat, 06/13/2026 - 11:08

In reply to by Max Stirner (not verified)

First, I was just challenging the very loose definition of fascist, but try doing that with anyone these days. Second, many, is not most American anarchists are from the long secession of immigrant peoples, not the mayflower. But, go ahead and flex bro, you seem to understand it all so well, from your keyboard.

anonymous (not verified) Tue, 06/09/2026 - 08:44

Are we really gonna rehash this same tired thing again. Anarchists have no obligation, and in fact it is detrimental to each of us, to make our ideas, spaces, and activities "accessible". Hard stop.
Anyone who pushes that line is our enemy.

anonymous (not verified) Sun, 06/14/2026 - 08:51

In reply to by anonymous (not verified)

Exclusivity's also the shadow of property. It always eventually rears its ugly head through the essentially-exclusive nature of proprietarian dynamics. I'd like the author to rethink their shit, especially on the part of what's their actual plan to overcome the soft power of capitalism. Coz apparantly this closet conservative didn't pay serious thought to it, or cared about it.

Lebou (not verified) Sat, 06/13/2026 - 19:04

Mass movements fail because most of the participants/members are workerists, the first stage of confined servitude.

anonymous (not verified) Sun, 06/14/2026 - 10:59

When are the forums coming back?

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