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The most recent "The Final Straw" podcast (https://thefinalstrawradio.noblogs.org/post/2019/11/17/margaret-killjoy-...) has a good discussion that overlaps with the topic of last week's abang, last week's TOTW (convo even overlaps word for word in some parts with A! + Plast's discussion!), this weeks TOTW. Not sure if anyone has the time and interest to listen to both, but it's an interesting coincidence how in sync. Was it coordinated? XD