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I support animal liberation. But my sense is that XR has had a bigger impact, in a shorter period of time, than these smaller anarchist groups. As I recall, Gelderloos actually says in this interview that XR is "going backward." Huh? What does he actually propose, and what are his models of tangible success? Also, as I say there are already ACTUAL ANARCHISTS in XR, so who is Gelderloos actually talking to?