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and i've actually had many good and productive conversations on here, but sometimes i screw up and i don't adequately respond to criticism, or worse i get mad at the trolls and i start trolling them, in the end only trolling myself.

This forum is interesting the respect that i feel the trolls on here are often more clever and inventive than the right-wingers, but still cruelty is cruelty at the end of the day, and we should have the strength to refrain from it...

I guess...i think that one of the natural ways that all animals respond to cruelty is an angry aggression, so to expect people to always be strong in the face of adversity is a corny western spook.