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13:40 here, yeah, I'm trying to explain to the person about customs, clothes, morals etc, and he thinks everything is ideology. Some of these novice wannabe chic nihilists go overboard and declare 3verything as ideologically founded lol. For them, one has to be a newly born naked infant to pass their test of being non-ideological. They often end up forming nudist colonies but drive there in the cars to their farm (ideological) which they purchased from their inherited trust fund (ideological) to meet all their yuppy friends and sip lattés (ideological) naked (not ideological.