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So i listened to this solecast, pen ready to write up some snark, but there was not much in it for me, at least nothing juicy/spicy. yet here are my notes/reportback:

Sole presents this podcast by saying "Commune" mag is about how "revolutionary, anti-state, cooperative, whatever, non-ideologically driven...[awkward pause]...revolutionary projects can look like in the 21st century". They make the caveat that this is their personal interpretation, not how the magazine describes itself.

Then Jasper self-deprecatingly briefly whines about the hardships of the rat race of being an academic and a poet. Sole complains about the lack of modern anti-state poetry and how it's hard to find.

After that, Jasper begins to talk in general terms about things like "Occupy" and "the Oakland commune", and communes, and of "revolutionary moments" that "collapse present, future and past", of "being there" and how those moments somehow carry the baggage of all the "struggles of human history". How in these moments "people feel different" to Jasper, how they all shared a "temporary insanity" and "crazy optimism". Then Jasper confesses that the prospects for or of revolution look bleak, that "I have to believe that there's a possibility that we can make it out of it. I can't imagine living without it. It'd be too bleak."

Jasper then admits to being influenced by communization theory, that their ideas are "complex and weird" and they they're interested in taking these "obscure marxist theories" and distill them or make them understandable for a wider audience. Sole then asks Jasper about the relationship between communization theory and tiqqun and the Invisible Committee. Jasper answers that although when these texts were beginning to be translated and circulated around the same time in US, a link was tried to be made between them, but they're actually different bodies of thought. Jasper says that the main difference is that tiqqun/I.C. believes that communism can be built in the present moment, in advance of any revolutionary moment, while communization theory says the opposite; that there's no hope of trying to do that, that communism can only emerge from these moments of rupture. Here is where I quote Jasper out of context "...chickens are two steps away from communism". Ok, I couldn't do it, the context is that Sole says he has some chickens, aspiring to Tarnac, Jasper then says this half sincerely commending him, half mocking him for it.

After Sole makes clear that he's team tiqqun / I.C. / Tarnac, Jasper makes clear though he shares a lot tactically and logistically with the I.C., he and the editing team in "Commune" mag are actually leftcoms and that "they publish all kinds of things they disagree with" and that they aim for a breadth of writers and readership, that includes anarchos.

Then both Jasper and Sole coincide in expressing the feeling that they are currently in a different moment from "occupy" or "BLM", and that they feel a generational disconnect. Something about millenials and memes, and that "Commune" mag does not wish to be directed towards that audience, Jasper says he sees some appeal in writing something his mom can understand.

Then they reflect about the meaning of the word "commune" about it being both an ideal place and a physical space. Jasper says the "Oakland commune" was as such partly descriptive and partly as an aspiration of what they wanted it to be. Then he speaks of the importance of "assembly", not as a formal process, but as a coming together to change how you relate to people around you, that keeps political groups from getting stuck in their habits. He says it takes patience, that riots move to quickly for that.

After that, they talk about agriculture. That bit was kinda interesting.

Uh...well, yeah. i wrote another comment on anews. im sippin on tea with rum.