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and discuss the impact of controlled use of fire with him, with regards to the road to domestication? Maybe he could bring more information to the table? Fire in and of itself cannot change. However, it can be manipulated and it is the discharge of locked-in energy which is release through combustion. It is this controlled use of fire/combustion which has had the greatest impact: for cooking, heat, light and industrialisation. It is weird how JZ refuses to acknowledge that without the controlled use of fire, the rest of human domination would not have followed. What would be the point of domestication of life if we couldn't cook it and eat it? Without fire, the is no way domestication would have happened, right?