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none of it is 'green'. the systemic problem is growth, period. we don't need to cut down any more trees, nor do we need to forge steel or make plastic. we need ween off our consumption by re-using and re-purposing what we have already taken from the planet instead of mindlessly consuming more and then we need to stop. stop and rethink our relationships to the natural world. to actually become a partner in our relationships to the earth and all of life. and yes, i know that most of the the 8 billion of us on the planet do not have the political or cultural will to do this on the scale needed to really address the problems (so-called green new deals just mean more extraction and consumption). but we can still each find this relationship for ourselves and fight for what we know to be right. we can practice harm reduction, self defense and love. find who/what you love, care for it/them and defend it/them. it doesn't matter if we 'win', for this is where we will find meaning and our truest selves. de-growth (collapse) will happen whether we plan for it or not. much love to the forest defenders, see you in the woods.