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the point is that many years ago, ziggles was apparently recognized as having come to this discussion from a theoretically valid place. who decided that validity and on what grounds is lost to time but in this case, challenging the concept of intrinsic "wrongness" of concepts is probably almost always worthwhile from an anarchist perspective and he's just the pompous edgelord windbag to grind his axe over a point like that.

ps in case I haven't made this clear, i dislike him a great deal :)