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I dunno... your subcultures also tend to be getting pretty heavy when they become a channel for exclusion and identity politics.

Let's say I'm a big guy who, even while accepting my feminity (just not in my clothing), is often deemed a macho due to not fitting with the ultra-skinny constitution that's the gold standard these days if you wanna fit in (prolly due to liberal girls being so insecure with any dude they can't easily beat up at wrestling... tho even if some trust has been broken and there are abuses, there's also a lot paranoia about the rape issue). I like body-building as it's a way to gain balance with my body, and stay agile and strong, not for dominating women.