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I can remember back in 05 when Zerzan needed bodyguards to speak in Montreal. To see him say things on the Lopez submedia leftist level is truly a sad sight to behold. I have my issues with Aragorn, but holy shit do I know where my preferences lie. Zerzan is banking on a radical form that will have no future in less then a decade. It's gonna be like old left syndicalism heading into the 40s. People on the Aragorn and proper post-left side of things at least see this coming to various degrees.