
From Montreal Counterinfo
Full title: How We Stormed Concordia University: De-arresting, Painting, Shutting Down Classes and Exams
Anonymous submission to MTL Counter-info
Strategic takeaways TLDR:
1) It does not take many people to change the course of a protest.
2) When the police are busy defending a fixed point it opens possibilities for exciting action in other places.
3) Our comrades can be de-arrested, and doing this against security officers is good, lower-stakes practice for doing it against the police
The takeover of Concordia’s Hall building was yet another instance of the slow building militancy in the Tiohtià:ke (Montréal) solidarity movement for Palestine.
On November 21st, over 85,000 students across Quebec were on strike demanding their academic institutions align with the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement, drop the political suspensions of student activists, and against police on campus — making it possibly one of the biggest strikes for Palestine, outside of the occupied territories, in world history.
Committed to swinging the protest into a more combative stance, the rough idea was to make the Concordia rally on the first day of the province-wide student strike for Palestine militant enough to force the university to shut down for the day, thereby enforcing the strike mandate and causing maximum disruption. The primary proposal for doing so was to take over a building.
On the day of the rally organized and publicized by Students for Palestine’s Honour and Resistance (SPHR) Concordia, a few anarchists from all over the city (collaborating across Francophone and Anglophone milieus) found each other and shared ideas for ways to make the rally more interesting and disruptive. To avoid another ritualistic demonstration of the same chants and speeches, they decided they would try to enter Concordia’s Hall Building: the center of the University’s student activity, and known target to the broader Tiohtià:ke anarchist community that was hit several times in the fall 2024 semester, causing hundreds of thousands of dollars’ worth of damage.
The building was being guarded by a line of private security mercenaries — not exaggeration, everyone would soon find out that these goons were hired by the university from “Perceptage,” a security firm whose CEO advertises his IDF training. After some comrades grabbed hold of the door and held them open, a first group of brave protestors pushed through the security line yelling “move” and beckoning for the crowd outside to join them in storming the Hall lobby. The crowd reacted quickly and did just that. Security also reacted quickly and violenty grabbed the first few comrades pushing through, putting them in head locks and ripping their clothes, but other protesters fought back, grabbing onto their comrades’ bodies and tearing them out of security’s grasp. These were the first sucessful de-arrests since Concordia security began their practice of “citizen’s arrests” at protests, and it showed that our comrades can be snatched back if we move fast. Doing so aginast unarmed security can be good, lower-stakes practice for doing so against the police
Security soon realized they were totally overpowered and outnumbered and stepped aside, defeated. They could only watch as hundreds of students and “outside agitators” stormed the Hall building lobby.
Meanwhile, the riot police – who are often a significant factor at protests in Tiohtia:ke due to being highly equipped (tear gas, pepper spray, etc.) and trained more specifically for “crowd control” than riot cops in other cities, were busy forming a barrier around a small group of zionist counter-protestors. As was seen a number of times over the summer, when the SPVM have a fixed point they must defend, it can open up possibilties for protesters.
Having flooded the Hall building lobby, pacifying speeches on a megaphone began once again, and anarchists were seen continuously beckoning the crowd to remain dynamic and to begin going upstairs by chanting “Who’s school? Our school!” Some protesters spoke to the people giving speeches, who then announced to the crowd that people were moving upstairs. A critical mass began to move and a snake-demo through every floor of the Hall building ensued. Protesters were seen spray painting, disabling security cameras, tossing garbage cans onto the floor, creating chair barricades outside classrooms, even expropriating expensive university equipment, all as security just sat back and watched helplessly.
The dynamic movement created a real feeling of empowerment, and hopefully will encourage more serious attempts to liberate space and resources from the university. What felt powerful to see on this day was that it only took a handful of protesters to secure the doors, and with 15-20 militants on hand the protest shifted from a standard rally on the street, to a disruptive snake demo through a 12 story building. This taking of the school by force was something the secuirty was clearly desperate to avoid, and they responded by sending out an emergency alert encouraging people to avoid the area, as well as a message to professors that resulted in some classes and exams being cancelled into the evening. The day’s success was made possible partly due to activists at Concordia continuously organizing and trying to increase militancy and build relationships; there had been many previous unsuccessful attempts to escalate.
Surely thanks to a large portion of the crowd being in full kuffiyeh, black or student bloc, and totally concealed, as of this day, no one has faced legal or academic consequences for Thursday, November 21st actions.
There were also reports that an hour earlier, at McGill university, fire alarms were simultaneously triggered in every building on campus, forcing students out into the lawn where they could join the walkout happening at the same time.
The strikes served their function very well in this case, freeing up student time and energy and creating the conditions for an action that otherwise hasn’t been pulled off.
The 21st was unequivocally a success, yet there were a few things which could have made it even better and more impactful:
- It became very clear that, once the snake-demo up the Hall building had begun, very few people had made plans for such a successful scenario, perhaps this comes from anarchists’ unfamiliarity with success in attempted manoeuvres, or the amount of work militants put into planning to enforce the strike instead of the possibility of other actions. Regardless of reasons, strategic or symbolic targets could have been plotted out beforehand, and further plans beyond just “getting into the building” could have been executed.
- While people were beginning to flood into the Hall Building, one protestor who remained outside put up a nazi salute towards the zionist counter-protestors and shouted “The final solution is coming for you”. Regrettably, no one in the demonstration intervened when they saw this happening. While student associations, the Concordia Student Union, and community groups across the city denounced it after the fact, there needs to be a strong, shared understanding that nazis be immediately and physically confronted, and are in no way welcome in the movement for a liberated Palestine.
- There is very little shared analysis that “If we desire an end to this world of genocide the university, too, must be destroyed.” Few students, or even non-students, understand the university as a location of social reproduction that enables capitalism and genocide and that must be attacked. This was seen in the general lack of antagonistic behavior on the 21st, in a scenario of possibility and freedom.
- Despite having full access to the building, the intense repression students have faced from the university in recent months likely led them to police their own actions on that day, despite not having anyone physically stopping them. This self-policing could be counteracted by encouraging more non-students to join university actions, and encouraging students to be disruptive at each other’s schools. In addition, hopefully actions on the 21st can spread confidence and the skills to de-arrest and protect each other at our own schools.
Despite there being room for improvement, we can still celebrate and try to reproduce the palbable feeling of liberation, freedom and empowerment that filled the hallways of the university that day.
Further Reading and Resources:
No Security in Repression: Policing Collective Action for Justice at Concordia and Beyond
Follow ClashMTL on Social Media
It All Goes Or it All Stays the Same
Mask up, You’re on Camera (physical copies distributed around Concordia)
The University, Too, Must Be Destroyed
Photo credits to William Wilson (@williamwilsonphotography)
Comments
Wtf is this nazi
anon (not verified) Mon, 01/06/2025 - 18:37
Wtf is this nazi demonstration doing all over my beloved @news?
are the nazis in the room
EmmaAintDead Mon, 01/06/2025 - 18:47
In reply to Wtf is this nazi by anon (not verified)
are the nazis in the room with us right now?
If you have one, even ONE,
anon (not verified) Mon, 01/06/2025 - 19:37
In reply to are the nazis in the room by EmmaAintDead
If you have one, even ONE, nazi yelling: "the final solution is coming for you", and no one does anything? Then that is officially a nazi rally/demonstration, regardless of anybody else's intentions.
you're giving nazis a lot
EmmaAintDead Mon, 01/06/2025 - 20:04
In reply to If you have one, even ONE, by anon (not verified)
you're giving nazis a lot more power than they actually have. one nazi equals one nazi. if all that one nazi needs to do in order to become a hundred nazis is not get his ass kicked then they've got a very clear and easy path to victory.
Maybe you should change your name
anon (not verified) Mon, 01/06/2025 - 20:31
In reply to you're giving nazis a lot by EmmaAintDead
To "Adolfaintdead"
maybe you should stop
EmmaAintDead Mon, 01/06/2025 - 21:23
In reply to Maybe you should change your name by anon (not verified)
maybe you should stop bestowing mythical powers on your enemies. it's a huge part of why you always lose to them.
What is this liberal scumbag
anon (not verified) Mon, 01/06/2025 - 21:25
In reply to maybe you should stop by EmmaAintDead
What is this liberal scumbag doing on out beloved anarchist news?
Fuck off, EmmaAintDead. Learn
anon (not verified) Mon, 01/06/2025 - 21:23
In reply to you're giving nazis a lot by EmmaAintDead
Fuck off, EmmaAintDead. Learn your anarchist history and stop with the peace policing. Never let the nazis have the street.
"Never let the nazis have the
EmmaAintDead Mon, 01/06/2025 - 21:38
In reply to Fuck off, EmmaAintDead. Learn by anon (not verified)
"Never let the nazis have the street" is a genuinely hilarious sentiment to express when you're using one nazi (who was apparently largely ignored) to manufacture a small army of nazis who stood victorious. I never said be peaceful with nazis, I said you're all imagining nazis where the aren't any and you're losing your imaginary fight against them.
how does it feel to be so bad at fighting fascists that you have to fabricate fascists to fight and you STILL can't beat them?
"how does it feel to be so
anon (not verified) Mon, 01/06/2025 - 21:41
In reply to "Never let the nazis have the by EmmaAintDead
"how does it feel to be so bad at fighting fascists that you have to fabricate fascists to fight and you STILL can't beat them?"
There was a literal fascist.
How do it feel to be a mealy-mouthed liberal scumbag that stands up to nothing and stands for nothing? Fuck off, pigfucker.
A literal fascist. A.
EmmaAintDead Mon, 01/06/2025 - 21:51
In reply to "how does it feel to be so by anon (not verified)
A literal fascist. A. singular. one. uno.
"If you just ignore the nazis
TranslationBot (not verified) Mon, 01/06/2025 - 22:30
In reply to A literal fascist. A. by EmmaAintDead
"If you just ignore the nazis's they'll get bored and gOooo away, fellow anarchists." ~EmmaAintDead
still just the one nazi tho
EmmaAintDead Mon, 01/06/2025 - 22:50
In reply to "If you just ignore the nazis by TranslationBot (not verified)
still just the one nazi tho is the thing
The reason that "one neo nazi
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 08:14
In reply to still just the one nazi tho by EmmaAintDead
The reason that "one neo nazi didn't get beat up" is because it WASN'T one lone neo nazi, but a whole crowd of them.
This whole bs communique is nothing more than an anarchist psyop designed to take credit for what the neonazis are doing and fool you into thinking that it's the anarchists who are making It Going Down (forreal), and you fell for it you bumbling gullible oaf!
Q. What do you call an
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 09:01
In reply to still just the one nazi tho by EmmaAintDead
Q. What do you call an "anarchist" that tolerates nazis doing nazi shit as "harmless" and discourages anarchists from opposing them?
A. Not an anarchist
B. A nazi apologist
C. Both
D. Imaginary, like the crowd
EmmaAintDead Tue, 01/07/2025 - 09:59
In reply to Q. What do you call an by anon (not verified)
D. Imaginary, like the crowd of nazis being discussed
emma, you are stoked that
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 10:38
In reply to D. Imaginary, like the crowd by EmmaAintDead
emma, you are stoked that they kids got together and implemented an old school iww type tactic to pressure an authority? and did so with no arrests (presume bc they occupations have essentially become a nonthreatening copycat ritual)
do you want to elaborate and state your case more thoroughly? it strikes me that the biggest issues at hand are maybe 1. it was an appeal to authority 2. it would only apply decent pressure if it had quickly radicalized many more students and resulted in successive more targeted destructive protests on the campus. how do you answer these concerns? are you an unabashed community organizer?
oh I'm not concerned with
EmmaAintDead Tue, 01/07/2025 - 11:07
In reply to emma, you are stoked that by anon (not verified)
oh I'm not concerned with defending the liberal charade of petitioning colleges with demands, I'm concerned with the hideous and cannibalistic antifa supersoldier hogshit where 1 nazi becomes 100 because some fucking idiots on the internet want to make themselves feel Very Tough.
I do not care about (as in, am not in favor of and tend to be dismissive of in general) mass mobilization, student actions, or organizing committees. I do care about having an honest assessment of what "we" are up against and "if there's one nazi at a student protest that means there's a billion nazis with a giant gozdilla sized nazi leading them into a fierce battle" isn't the way to do that.
Emma would spit in your face
Emma161 (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 10:40
In reply to D. Imaginary, like the crowd by EmmaAintDead
Emma would spit in your face if she weren't dead, you terminally online, complacently smug, status quo scumbag
up the antifa bro! but only
EmmaAintDead Tue, 01/07/2025 - 11:09
In reply to Emma would spit in your face by Emma161 (not verified)
up the antifa bro! but only two arrows cause the iron front was problematic! we will be free!!!!!!!
What is this dogshit status
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 11:19
In reply to up the antifa bro! but only by EmmaAintDead
What is this dogshit status-quo fascist apologist doing on my beloved Anews ever minute of the day everyday?
The alt-MXGArchist bros have
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 11:46
In reply to What is this dogshit status by anon (not verified)
The alt-MXGArchist bros have been emboldened by the wave of stupidity across internetland, where they can easily find captive audiences to spread their deformed reactionary messages as whatever-they-disguise-it-as for the dopamine hits and as nourishment to fill the emptiness that is their lives. EmmaAintDead is no different.
Just ignore him and he will go away /s
EmmaAintDead is presumably…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 01:13
In reply to are the nazis in the room by EmmaAintDead
EmmaAintDead is presumably an entryist fascist or at least a liberal.
I remember a couple articles back, when Crimethinc. called for a day of protest trainings, he was crying and catastrophizing about how everyone was going to get arrested BY GOING TO A FUCKING WORKSHOP. Stupidest damn shit I have ever seen in my life.
Every time EmmaAintDead says anything, everyone should be like, shut the fuck up, you're either a completely irrational insane person, the most cowardly safety punk that ever existed, or an actual bad actor. You have nothing to offer. Zilch. Shut the fuck up and get out of here.
you seem very upset, comrade…
EmmaAintDead Wed, 01/08/2025 - 14:08
In reply to EmmaAintDead is presumably… by anon (not verified)
you seem very upset, comrade. perhaps a nice hot borscht and some party approved bread adjacent food products would settle your nerves. it's not very diamat of you to lose your temper on the internet over paper tigers such as imagined crowds of nazis. hashtag noplatform hashtag keepscientologyworking
SHUT THE FUCK UP
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 14:21
In reply to you seem very upset, comrade… by EmmaAintDead
SHUT THE FUCK UP
D'awwwwww
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 14:42
In reply to SHUT THE FUCK UP by anon (not verified)
Is the little wittle stalinist baby upsetttttt
OoOhhhh noOooo!!
:(
Wait, why are you playing…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 15:02
In reply to D'awwwwww by anon (not verified)
Wait, why are you playing Nazis vs Commies on my beloved Anews? GTFO this is an anarchist website.
Mien Gott you should realize that anyone who opposed your love for all things Hitler does not a "Stalinist" make. Brah.
while stalin had the…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 15:17
In reply to Wait, why are you playing… by anon (not verified)
while stalin had the rational unemotional personality to enforce a strict party line, hitler created an atmosphere of self replicating fascism that presumably would have carried on with or without its supreme leader--a would-be historical force
AWWWWW
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 15:36
In reply to Wait, why are you playing… by anon (not verified)
It thinks it's an "anarchist"!
SO CUTE !
I suppose the CHUDs had to…
Nihilist Maggot (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 14:27
In reply to you seem very upset, comrade… by EmmaAintDead
I suppose the CHUDs had to go somewhere after InfoWars shit itself to death. Too bad these turdarchists like EmmaAintDead ended up here stinking all over every single goddamn post on our beloved anarchist news web community.
Maintain your critical and…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 14:47
In reply to you seem very upset, comrade… by EmmaAintDead
Maintain your critical and discerning observations and critiques of these hysterical ressentiment projecting malcontents my radical uno.
UH OH!
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 14:15
In reply to EmmaAintDead is presumably… by anon (not verified)
HOES MAD!
The mods literally have one
anon (not verified) Mon, 01/06/2025 - 18:53
In reply to Wtf is this nazi by anon (not verified)
The mods literally have one job..
between all of them that's
EmmaAintDead Mon, 01/06/2025 - 18:56
In reply to The mods literally have one by anon (not verified)
between all of them that's probably accurate
One too many. Quit your job
anon (not verified) Mon, 01/06/2025 - 22:56
In reply to between all of them that's by EmmaAintDead
One too many. Quit your job anews mod.
What's that antifa saying about having one Nazi at your party?
anon (not verified) Mon, 01/06/2025 - 19:38
That's kinda like the most tone-deaf activist reportback I've read in years. That's literally a protest where one could do sieg heils and calling for another Final Solution in broad daylight, in front of everyone, protesters just letting it happen, and getting away with it.
100%
anon (not verified) Mon, 01/06/2025 - 19:43
In reply to What's that antifa saying about having one Nazi at your party? by anon (not verified)
So basically a bunch of angry lil Adolfs ran around frothing at the mouth about, ahem.. "zionists", at Concordia university back in November.
That's all I took away from this nazi propaganda-piece.
Stay classy Mtl!
"How we stormed Concordia university"
anon (not verified) Mon, 01/06/2025 - 19:46
Stormed, eh? Interesting choice of words... would you say it was more or less a "blitzkrieg"?
I'd say it was their storm...
anon (not verified) Mon, 01/06/2025 - 20:07
In reply to "How we stormed Concordia university" by anon (not verified)
I'd say it was their storm.... front. *canned laughters but sad*
Oh god the event with the Second Cup girl.
SirEinzige Tue, 01/07/2025 - 00:10
You guys should be memory holing this whole event not reporting back. Bear in mind this woman does not exist in a vacuum. There IS structural antisemitism that exists within the propal left and there is a connective pipeline via groups like samidoun.
I like many want Zionism defeated as an idea but you will never do with with these leftists assclown losers.
Mtl isn't what it used to be.
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 07:57
In reply to Oh god the event with the Second Cup girl. by SirEinzige
Mtl isn't what it used to be.. Pretty funny tho that they would try to co-opt a militant nazi action and spin it as one of their own.
How so much better was it?
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 10:29
In reply to Mtl isn't what it used to be. by anon (not verified)
Besides an apparent collapse of the affinity groups (lol) and radical projects... The 2002 Netanyahu protest that happened at the exact same place was riddled with antisemitism, that the local Leftards avoided to address apparently. Pro-Palestine crowd was always sus and enabling antisemitic sentiment at least in the closet. At Concordia's People's Potato they often took over the kitchen, on April 20th (a.k.a Hitler's birthday, at least for those that aren't potheads). I briefly lived in a commune in Hochelaga neighborhood that was run by a few pseudo-commie shitheads who had no problem badmouthing Jews during convos, and they were known for it. You also had a long-term Muslim refugee activist like Charkaoui who got fired for teaching Holocaust denial at a public school... that after being a star of the Left milieu for years.
It's like being a Muslim for these idiots equates to being progressive and "oppressed" by default. lol But there's nothing special about... antisemitism has been a discrete cancer of the New Left since the '70s.
Ah 2002 Montreal...
SirEinzige Wed, 01/08/2025 - 01:05
In reply to How so much better was it? by anon (not verified)
I remember watching a doc on the Concordia protest 20 years ago or so. It featured Jaggi Singh among other people. The main dude in the doc seemed like a very sincere young budding thinker who still valued free speech(albeit a naively) and was not corrupted by the leftarded politics of the day.
Montreal and all legacy leftists cities seem to have some common problems that go back to new left 1970s maoism or adjacent ideology. To me there is simply no fixing it. They have this inherent split brain view on nationalism and a SEVERELY limited last 500+ year analysis in regards to civilization and power.
We need a proper pomo, memo(metamodernism) and post-left radical analysis that leaves this retarded maoist infected pro-nationalist 'radicalism' behind once and for all. As I will continue to say maoism is syphilis for radicalism in that infects in many masquerading ways. The only way you are going to defeat big Z is with an integrated jew/gentile internally consistent post/non/anti-nationalism.
New Left derivative discourse was never fit to do this.
SoOoo trUe, my radical…
SoreEgregore (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 01:13
In reply to Ah 2002 Montreal... by SirEinzige
SoOoo trUe, my radical centrist unretarded, metamo, non-cuck egregore brah!
You are like the one man human centipede of Anews!
Eat shit and carry on!
Everyone is carefully reading you and taking your wise advices!
Brah!!
as far as i know, any…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 08:31
In reply to SoOoo trUe, my radical… by SoreEgregore (not verified)
as far as i know, any anarchist is absolutely part of an egregore, unless that is, if they're in a Party
Of course
SirEinzige Wed, 01/08/2025 - 08:42
In reply to as far as i know, any… by anon (not verified)
An egregore is simply an emergent idea form. You can look it up on wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egregore
The person you are responding to is probably a Lumpy sock puppet account who engages in incoherent trolling. The reason the trolling is so retarded is because it reflects lumpy's inherent intellectual retardation.
SoOo true, my radical…
SoreEgregore (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 08:49
In reply to Of course by SirEinzige
SoOo true, my radical centrist ego egregore detective brah! There is nO wAY there are other non-Lumpy brahs that ridicule you! The emergency idea forms from your superior radically centrist un-lumped brain meat to the inherently retardations of their consciousnesses!
Party on, brah!
look,i think the things you…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 09:06
In reply to Of course by SirEinzige
look,i think the things you say are sometimes apt. and i don't really care when people are intentionally assholes. but for political reasons and personal emotional reasons some seem to deem it apt in turn to constantly smear you. even everyone's favorite troll brah, even tho trolling is one of the oldest postmodern crafts. my only workable explanation is that the "opposition" is indeed just trying to highlight what you say by working up more hype. on this site it's certainly antisocial to actually earnestly express what one feels. deconstruction and the capture of desire have ruined that for everyone.
That didn't use to be the case on this site
SirEinzige Wed, 01/08/2025 - 09:16
In reply to look,i think the things you… by anon (not verified)
"on this site it's certainly antisocial to actually earnestly express what one feels."
I agree with this point but there was a time when anews was different. One thing that would help is if you got rid of anonymous commenting. I'm not for this but it might help.
YesSS we should check their…
SoreEgregore (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 09:19
In reply to That didn't use to be the case on this site by SirEinzige
YesSS we should check their identification toOo! This way they can no longer mock us! Just like Zuck be doing with Dana White on the Meta Internets! Doing away with anonymity is a VERY ANARCHIST idea only a true ego anarch radical centrist egregore could manifest!
Aww look it's trying to make a point when it trolls
SirEinzige Wed, 01/08/2025 - 21:19
In reply to YesSS we should check their… by SoreEgregore (not verified)
Making an @ site be handle name required is hardly a break with anarchist ideas. It's completely neutral and makes sense if you are trying to curate discussion and avoid sniping anonymous noise. It is nothing like meta. As said I'm not actually for this simply because anews simply reflects the times. It's best period was late in web 1.0 when it launched and maybe for few years in web 2.0 up to about the mid-10s.
The context that created anews no longer exists and has been replaced by digital social media sludge. You/lumpy are very much a mark of this.
The reality is that the Nazi…
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 13:41
In reply to Mtl isn't what it used to be. by anon (not verified)
The reality is that the Nazi behavior by one evidently pro-Nazi protester took place over the course of 10 seconds on the periphery of the protest as the large majority of the crowd was focused on the entry into a university building. Most people did not notice it happening. This doesn't make it okay that it was tolerated by those who did witness it, as the report-back states "there needs to be a strong, shared understanding that nazis be immediately and physically confronted". But calling this a militant nazi action is not a serious take.
You can make all the excuses you want
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 16:20
In reply to The reality is that the Nazi… by anon (not verified)
"Ohhhh but it was only 10 seconds!" Or "Ohhhh but no one even noticed!!", but the fact remains: if your demo has even one nazi in it, and nothing is done about it, then that makes it a defacto nazi demo.
Lol, even a drone with a…
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 16:25
In reply to You can make all the excuses you want by anon (not verified)
Lol, even a drone with a swastika on it hovering over a demonstration will make the demo antisemitic.
Unless it's knocked out of the sky by a drone with a Circle-A
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 16:32
In reply to Lol, even a drone with a… by anon (not verified)
Then yes.
Media propaganda response--…
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 16:58
In reply to Unless it's knocked out of the sky by a drone with a Circle-A by anon (not verified)
Media propaganda response---Aaargh, terrorist attack on peaceful protest by evil anarchist terrorists injures 5 people with damaged drones falling into crowd. --- Win /Win for nazis.
It's best to just live as a non-ideological rebel in your immediate existent.
That is such a funny thing…
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 18:23
In reply to You can make all the excuses you want by anon (not verified)
That is such a funny thing to say I literally am reading it to a room of people and we are all laughing about how braindead it is, but also lamenting that many impressionable idiots will agree with you
Not actually braindead but…
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 19:41
In reply to That is such a funny thing… by anon (not verified)
Not actually braindead but rather, a nuanced and critical appraisal of media propaganda methodology describing these "impressionable idiots" (voters) uncritical acceptance of fake news/propaganda.
I'm gonna get a drone and…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 22:41
In reply to That is such a funny thing… by anon (not verified)
I'm gonna get a drone and put a Star of David and a Swastika SIDE BY SIDE, they'll all get confused, even the media propaganda machine, left vs right? they'll turn on themselves, they are the same thing after all, only inverted. This is what REAL anarchists do! It's a healthy detour nyuk nyuk nyuk
No you won't. LOSER!
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 22:45
In reply to I'm gonna get a drone and… by anon (not verified)
No you won't. LOSER!
As far as I'm concerned
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 16:24
In reply to The reality is that the Nazi… by anon (not verified)
Concordia got stormed by a mob of Wehrmact-SS-wannabe, jew-hating; hitler-lovers.
Change my mind, nazi.
ha! hey, it's the steven…
lumpy (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 22:48
In reply to As far as I'm concerned by anon (not verified)
ha! hey, it's the steven crowder meme from back before he got kicked off youtube for putting his balls on all his employees. is that you steven? are we safe from your teabags?
I bet it made you feel Very…
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 16:30
In reply to The reality is that the Nazi… by anon (not verified)
I bet it made you feel Very Tough to pick on the Jewish diaspora in your community.
Thank you for making it…
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 16:41
In reply to I bet it made you feel Very… by anon (not verified)
Thank you for making it clear that a Zionist troll discovered anews.
Yes, now hating Nazis makes…
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 17:06
In reply to Thank you for making it… by anon (not verified)
Yes, now hating Nazis makes you a "Zionist". Plz go spend some time in Libya. Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia and see how progressive and libertarian they really are.
HMMM, it sure would be easy
lumpy (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 10:31
HMMM, it sure would be easy to send a handful of bad actors to try and loudly discredit a mass action by misrepresenting the politics!
THAT SURE WOULD BE EASY TO DO, hypothetically ...
Not if said bad actors are
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 10:55
In reply to HMMM, it sure would be easy by lumpy (not verified)
Not if said bad actors are thrown out of a protest. So regardless of that antisemite coffee shop manager was for real or not, she passed the test of being an hateful open antisemite at a Palestine demo.
yeah so if you actually go…
lumpy (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 20:21
In reply to Not if said bad actors are by anon (not verified)
yeah so if you actually go to street actions, you'll know that it's not like a closed venue where you can control who is there to the standard you're implying
How dare you suggest these…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 21:44
In reply to yeah so if you actually go… by lumpy (not verified)
How dare you suggest these shithead reactionary trolls leave the safety of the internet! How dare you!
heh! i mean ... i don't…
lumpy (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 22:42
In reply to How dare you suggest these… by anon (not verified)
heh! i mean ... i don't expect them to take my advice but they're clearly going extra hard on this thread
just giving the whole game away by being way too eager with their little talking points
agg, please return the…
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 12:26
agg, please return the preferred text font to my eyes! this is intolerable!
I like the cream off-white…
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 17:02
In reply to agg, please return the… by anon (not verified)
I like the cream off-white background, very easy on the eyes.
This comment section has thrown Nuance under the bus
GEF (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 20:55
I know nuance may be unsexy to some of you, but lemme state the boring obvious everyone should know already....
For sure EmmaAintDead is being reckless in their denial, but this totally was NOT a Neonazi march, duh!
The march had countless predictable "Palestinian" flags, as well as a few Russian flags and otherwise. Which makes it a nationalist march for sure. The Palestinian flag ain't a Nazi flag, even tho it's symbolism is inherently monarchist and traditionalist. But that's not Nazism, or even Neonazism. Not even Al Qaeda's or ISIS's flags are Neonazi.
Nazism is a specific branch of fascism, and even if there IS a history of German Nazi collaboration with the Pan-Arab nationalist movement, especially in Mandatory Palestine, there ain't a de facto equation between the two tendencies. Just like while there's still a lot of support of Nazism and antisemitism in the Palestinian movement, I don't see how that makes a protest for Gaza into a Nazi protest. How can you tell who's a Nazi or not, beyond that crazy antisemite lady?
And no, the simple fact of having a Neonazi at a gathering doesn't make everyone attending a Neonazi. Neonazi ENABLERS, tho, I guess.... But Neonazis, HOW?
*NuUahncz
GEF (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 21:07
In reply to This comment section has thrown Nuance under the bus by GEF (not verified)
*NuUahncz
No u.
RealGEF (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 21:42
In reply to *NuUahncz by GEF (not verified)
No u.
Look here, tourist. It's…
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 21:11
In reply to This comment section has thrown Nuance under the bus by GEF (not verified)
Look here, tourist. It's painfully obviously you don't spend much time with anarchists and antifascists outside of your little online social media bubbles, but let me clear up something for you: the word 'nazi' has taken on a wider meaning since the 40s. Anarchists and antifascists all know what is meant when a motherfucker says the word 'nazi' and we don't need your mouthbreathing, "well ackshully Nazi is a specific.....", understand?
SoOoo deal with it.
No.
RealGEF (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 21:44
In reply to Look here, tourist. It's… by anon (not verified)
But anyways... got a plane to take to some sunny resort. bye.
Mix some nuance with…
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 21:52
In reply to This comment section has thrown Nuance under the bus by GEF (not verified)
Mix some nuance with critical thinking and we will stand aloof from the herd brah ;)
"... Just like while there's…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 07:57
In reply to This comment section has thrown Nuance under the bus by GEF (not verified)
"... Just like while there's still a lot of support of Nazism and antisemitism in the Palestinian movement,..."
this is literally not true. there is some antisemitism here and there, just as there is within ALL left wing movements (and obviously otherwise), but the palestinian solidarity movement is actually not full of nazis and antisemites. that's just not true. you want to sound reasonable or like you are building bridges in this convo, but the people you are building with are zionist trolls. one dumbass at the back of a crowd doing a nazi thing nobody noticed for 5 seconds is not a significant political occurrence. it would be cool to have seen him tossed out. but he chose the back because that is also where the most sheepish people already were. we dont need to debate this. we need to figure out how to topple the real, modern day, nazis -- US imperialism and its junior partners in canada and western europe.
US imperialism
SirEinzige Wed, 01/08/2025 - 08:50
In reply to "... Just like while there's… by anon (not verified)
This comment speaks to my earlier comment on over focusing on the last 500 years. The anti-imperialism articulated above essentially amounts to playa hatin'. The US and its Leviathan structure is part of a complex integrated totality of problems related to zero sum game structures. Focus on the game not the player.
Also, while the propal thing is mostly not antisemitic, it does attract closeted and quite cases and the here and there is more numerous then this poster would like to admit. The problem is putting the pro to what is essentially a state in waiting structure. The better thing to do would be to focus on the zionist state entity and if anything put forward counter nationalist ideas and articulate what those ideas would look like.
This would essentially be inseparable from an authentic cosmo radicalism.
We, the Great Imperium of…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 09:02
In reply to US imperialism by SirEinzige
We, the Great Imperium of the Last 500 Years, thank you for your very wise pass, SirEingize! These retarded timecucks simply can't fathom that it takes AT LEAST 20000 years of data anal(heh heh heh)ysis to properly articulate geosociohomoludic movements of populations!
Up the Cosmo Radicalism!
Specifically the Cosmo Radical Centrism of the Timeless Ego-Egregore!
OK lUmPy.
SirEinzige Wed, 01/08/2025 - 09:05
In reply to We, the Great Imperium of… by anon (not verified)
OK lUmPy.
Hm! Maybe you ARE retarded?…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 09:17
In reply to OK lUmPy. by SirEinzige
Hm! Maybe you ARE retarded? SoOo glad Lumpy lives rent free in your "brain", howeveR!
the f00l is The One Who Sees…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 09:21
In reply to Hm! Maybe you ARE retarded?… by anon (not verified)
the f00l is The One Who Sees Well, br4h
i just hate how ziggles…
lumpy (not verified) Thu, 01/09/2025 - 11:32
In reply to Hm! Maybe you ARE retarded?… by anon (not verified)
i just hate how ziggles gives me all the credit for your literal years of fine troll trolling!
you've earned yourself a nicer bridge to live under! with fast, righteously stolen wifi and all the gourmet troll slop from the dumpster that's just a little too fancy? like, the stuff you pull out of it makes people think you're a health and wellness yuppie because it's deluxe? top shelf dumpster!
lumpy, the beautiful took…
anon (not verified) Thu, 01/09/2025 - 11:59
In reply to i just hate how ziggles… by lumpy (not verified)
lumpy, the beautiful took only ever speaks up against dumpster scraps. is that bc they want it all for themselves?!
also half of yall is government bots for all i care
*took ==troll
anon (not verified) Thu, 01/09/2025 - 11:59
In reply to lumpy, the beautiful took… by anon (not verified)
*took ==troll
Thanks, brah! One day we…
anon (not verified) Thu, 01/09/2025 - 13:25
In reply to i just hate how ziggles… by lumpy (not verified)
Thanks, brah! One day we will embrace beneath that bridge in the ruins of what was once a vibrant city and we'll laugh great belly laughs about the tumor that was once known as SirSomething-or-other..
fine troll trolling
SirEinzige Fri, 01/10/2025 - 10:28
In reply to i just hate how ziggles… by lumpy (not verified)
His(your) trolling is about as good as your thinking lolpy;)
"The most sheepish people in the back"
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 09:11
In reply to "... Just like while there's… by anon (not verified)
How very telling of you! So, you're an anarchist leading the way of all the sheeple like you're the pied piper eh? What a big braaaaaave anarchist you are, up there at the front, "ra ra ra ra!"
Steer those sheepish sheeple masses who don't know what's best for them, my revolutionary anarchist brah!
"the real, modern day, nazis…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 09:32
In reply to "... Just like while there's… by anon (not verified)
"the real, modern day, nazis -- US imperialism and its junior partners in canada and western europe."
Try to sound clever again, while still avoiding Russia, China, and the many Muslim-dominated authoritarian regimes. Just because the US is the biggest military superpower doesn't make them "Nazi" by default...
As for the widespread antisemitism, Nazi sympathy and Holocaust-denial in the Muslim world, it's deeply-rooted and well-documented within plenty of leading orgs and parties like Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran's Islamic regime, the (now defunct) Ba'ath movement, and the Muslim Brotherhood as its local groups. Do your search about it and you'll have plenty of reports on the matter.
As potential exception I only seen PFLP's statement from '69, talking about the persecution of Jews in WW2 Europe and positing for a Palestine where Muslims and Jews got equal status; but beyond that their more recent stance is dubious as they themselves are they were behind antisemitic terror attacks outside of Israel, on random civilians, just for being Jewish. They're a bunch of MLs anyways...
how is the us not their own…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 09:47
In reply to "the real, modern day, nazis… by anon (not verified)
how is the us not their own kind of nazi as it pertains to trad native ways of life and the totalizing erasure of possibility in most of North America? do you know any subsistence nomad there, ffs? in fact, massified us media culture has created another use for the term nomad as it has created a lightly-disillusioned ex-professional class and expensive vehicle residences to meet their tastes!
the US are the nazis, they…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 10:33
In reply to how is the us not their own… by anon (not verified)
the US are the nazis, they hired the nazis and used them to build the modern airforce, NASA, etc. like literal nazis, i mean. the dropped napalm on urban centers all over korea, and then again all over vietnam, laos, cambodia...they have conducted rapacious warfare and ethnic cleanising all over the planet. the USA has killed literally a million people in latin america in the past 60 years, not to mention the millions starved and slaughtered by way of US sanctions and proxies in the middle east and in africa.
focusing on russia and china etc is fine if you are going to go do something about it. i am not one of the tankies who wants to avoid fighting these people too. but to do so, you will need relationships with comrades in those countries. idk anyone there. so i am focused on the great Satan itself, the united SStates.
as for the antisemitism of the islamist and arab gulf state elites, idk and idc. not my theater of conflict. i dont think we should be playing spectator or backseat driver here. we are talking about a protest in canada, not in Aden.
Since you look a lil more…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 12:29
In reply to how is the us not their own… by anon (not verified)
Since you look a lil more serious than that other Nazi America commenter...
"how is the us not their own kind of nazi as it?"
- still not having a totalitarian ethnostate program, or at least 'til Trump gets into power. Structural racism is still around, tho that's not even close to the level you get in Europe, India, Mexico or other regions. Some very racist geographic areas tho...
- no apparent program of creating a master race through ethnic-cleansing...
- has biggest Jewish population on the planet next to Israel, and not looking like anti-Jewish policies are underway...
- still has an ethnically-inclusive constitution, despite represive migration controls...
- has had a lot of actual Nazis and Neonazis over the years tho they never made it to significant state power (tho that's debatable with Elon and Thiel recently), or at least not on a full national level...
- has been a neolib capitalist hellhole for decades. So not quite consistent with Nazi economics that are closer to a New Deal-like consolidation of state & big business power...
So not saying Nazi America might not happen soon, but that's just not the past and present. But since the Palestine crowd got superdumb into antagonizing the Democrats under the failed ssumption Trump would get softer on Gaza, Palestinian militancy the past year has only helped empowering the Clown from Mar-a-Lago.
amerikan domestic diversity…
anon (not verified) Fri, 01/10/2025 - 13:40
In reply to Since you look a lil more… by anon (not verified)
amerikan domestic diversity is built on mountains of corpses all over the planet, a veritable wasteland of rotting flesh on every continent.
THIS JUST IN.... All the…
anon (not verified) Fri, 01/10/2025 - 13:56
In reply to amerikan domestic diversity… by anon (not verified)
THIS JUST IN.... All the massacres committed or supported by Amerika abroad was due to "domestic diversity".
Great LOGIK and FACCS! Brought to you by the dolts who elected a fat moron kid who wants to conquer Canada and Greenland!
wait where did the new deal…
anon (not verified) Fri, 01/10/2025 - 14:29
In reply to Since you look a lil more… by anon (not verified)
wait where did the new deal happen if not the past or present of america? where was manifest destiny the project? where are the reservations, the 2 million in prison? was it all a bad dream?
jokes aside i dont see how neoliberalism changed the consolidation of state and big business power and despite the relatively low level of (business) unionism, union pensions still make up a huge portion of the market, like 20% i think, and all of the legal restrictions on labor militancy that they benefit from are still in place. to my eye, griping about neoliberalism is always a strange move to make in this context since it amounts to complaining that someone or the other is no longer benefitting as much from exactly that new deal framework, when all it has really show (so far) is that a huge swathe of the american masses can be ejected from the sweeter end of the deal without resulting in any seriously renewed challenge from the left, if anything the opposite. if trump and co do some of the more insane stuff theyre talking about like abolish the NLRB maybe that picture gets more interesting, but im not holding my breath
You can't just burst into…
Le Way, (not verified) Tue, 01/07/2025 - 23:49
You can't just burst into the zeitgeist like a pimple and be recognized, the planet has acne, any movement is squeezed and eventually merges with the dominant terrain like any other invading life form.
I love how those was posted on January 6
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 09:30
Almost as though, not to be outdone by the fascists, the leftists were like... "OH YEAH? Well we'll have our OWN fashy demo... on the internet! But with more antisemitism and stuff!"
Hello subject-line-troll, I…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 09:37
In reply to I love how those was posted on January 6 by anon (not verified)
Hello subject-line-troll, I mean, tOtally anonymous fellow anarchist anon,
You don't need to pull up your pants, your whole ass is totally not showing, at all!
So nice that you love something.
Hey brah
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 09:56
In reply to Hello subject-line-troll, I… by anon (not verified)
Beat up any Jewish kids today? Long live the totally anarchist revolution!
Uh you DO realize that anti…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 10:30
In reply to Hey brah by anon (not verified)
Uh you DO realize that anti-Zionist Jewish people exist, right brah? Many are anarchists that think you're a doofus!
And, no. I gave up masturbation to retain my nutrients for the war of all against all!
Shalom, troll brah!
No brah
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 10:41
In reply to Uh you DO realize that anti… by anon (not verified)
Those are just self-hating Jewish people with internalized antisemitism. The ignorant doofus here is you.
"Heil", nazi brah
"All anti-Zionist Jews are…
TranslationShanda (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 11:46
In reply to No brah by anon (not verified)
"All anti-Zionist Jews are ackshully Nazis!"
what drugs are best for self…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 10:08
what drugs are best for self medicating adhd and having no choice but to notice the totalizing signs of capital everywhere after reading camatte?
i don't like how fast nicotine head rush goes away, i usually regret hangovers, and i really like being stupefied even if only temporarily
when we refuse to suffer, we…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 10:16
In reply to what drugs are best for self… by anon (not verified)
when we refuse to suffer, we suffer more
jonathan richman
So, copium? Fuck that shit!
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 10:32
In reply to when we refuse to suffer, we… by anon (not verified)
So, copium?
Fuck that shit!
lol you have a peculiar…
anon (not verified) Wed, 01/08/2025 - 10:51
In reply to So, copium? Fuck that shit! by anon (not verified)
lol you have a peculiar understanding of copium. is it copium to "escape" using druqs or to "escape" by disavowing the need for druqs?
if you listen to the song i think it's clear the quote is talking about acquiescence leading to greater and greater losses, eg the basic anticiv line, but still while having no way out, ultimately.
Are the Arabs aware that you…
anon (not verified) Tue, 01/21/2025 - 15:07
Are the Arabs aware that you're totally just riding the coat tails of their movement for riot fodder, and to advance your own diametrically opposed objectives? So sad anarchists can't riot on the back of their own causes without hijacking brown peoples shit.
Typical whites exploiting non-whites.
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