by thecollective
May 6, 2022
from Cyber Dandy
David Van Deusen is a longtime anarchist thinker, organizer, and militant union leader. He is the current president of the Vermont AFL-CIO. In this interview we have the privilege to hear Van Deusen's perspectives on past, current, and future revolutionary change.
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Vermont AFL-CIO's Ten Point Program (link)
Red (not verified) Fri, 05/06/2022 - 19:22
Here is a link to their Little Green Book. For a major union organization this is some radical shit! https://vt.aflcio.org/news/vermont-afl-cio-ten-point-program
> union organization
Wank Prize! (not verified) Sat, 05/07/2022 - 06:50
In reply to Vermont AFL-CIO's Ten Point Program (link) by Red (not verified)
> union organization
*falls asleep*
good interview
anon (not verified) Sat, 05/07/2022 - 09:04
Was not expecting to enjoy this as much as I did. This covers alot of the same ground as David's interview on IGD several years ago but enjoyed the talk especially about communes and other "ancient" history. Will try and catch next episode now!
Re: David Van Deusen on IGD
cyberdandy Sat, 05/07/2022 - 17:01
In reply to good interview by anon (not verified)
Cool thanks
I looked on the IGD site for an interview but couldn’t find one. Do you have a link?
I found this: https://itsgoingdown.org/montpelier-vt-antifascists-rally-against-far-r…
I also found this doing the same search which looks like it may be interesting: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1tY1OoImIcWZ35OZbtVlDJ?si=jyWmag-ATa-E…
https://itsgoingdown.org
anon (not verified) Sat, 05/07/2022 - 17:44
In reply to Re: David Van Deusen on IGD by cyberdandy
https://itsgoingdown.org/vermont-to-seattle-black-bloc-picket-line/
Also some recent history
anon (not verified) Sat, 05/07/2022 - 17:47
In reply to https://itsgoingdown.org by anon (not verified)
Also some recent history worth looking at. https://itsgoingdown.org/a-year-of-organizing-the-workers-defense-guard…
Thank, I will check that out!
cyberdandy Sat, 05/07/2022 - 21:25
In reply to Also some recent history by anon (not verified)
Thank, I will check that out!
It's a worthy interview, even
anon (not verified) Sun, 05/08/2022 - 13:58
It's a worthy interview, even tho I'm totally not in this guy or this organization's politics. This still seems like wooden talk even tho Van Deusen brought a more IRL perspective that at least we can connect to.
Like I didn't know about that event within NEFAC where they decided to take a communautarian stance, to the detriment of wildcat labor organizing. My guess is that the Quebec crowd (for its shitty crowd of bourgie anarcho-lefties that were very forthcoming when taking money from the State to finance their BS nonprofit bureaucracies), was responsible for pushing this, but that may be an oversimplification too.
Regardless, union organizing seems like a very thin and narrow perspective of anarchism. It's only addressing some aspect of daily life and fails to even ask deeper questions as to what anarchism means as a way of life, not just a way to do labor organizing against the bosses. That is where Emma Goldman and Co achieved something back in the days as workerist libcoms, as they more or less openly accepted how work ain't just workplace wage slavery, but a whole of slavish patterns of conducts and views that need to be overturned as per anarchy. Such was the case of Emma's stance for liberated love.
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