by thecollective
Sep 13, 2022
From Cyber Dandy
We welcome back Parenthesis Eye to the show and discuss the down and dirty details of his Utopian Anarchism. Using his latest two blog entries as a guide, Parenthesis Eye addresses the theoretical influences on his utopian thinking and the practices that come from it!
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"Parenthesis Eye addresses
anon (not verified) Wed, 09/14/2022 - 11:19
"Parenthesis Eye addresses the theoretical influences on his utopian thinking"
Let me guess,,,,, Elon Musk, Marshall Rosenberg, and Captain James T. Kirk?
These two should team up with William Gillis for a livestream Anarchist Cringecast.
You’re invited on
cyberdandy Wed, 09/14/2022 - 12:37
In reply to "Parenthesis Eye addresses by anon (not verified)
Hey big shot, here’s your chance to make a difference. Join under 1000 people who have dedicated their time to the anarchist cause by volunteering their time to Cyber Dandy’s the Episodes that I Do!
Cyber Dandy and William Gillis
cyberdandy Wed, 09/14/2022 - 13:06
In reply to "Parenthesis Eye addresses by anon (not verified)
By the way, I'm still working on reaching out to Gillis. He has such obvious guest potential it doesn't even take an @news comment-section troll to figure it out!
https://twitter.com/cyb3rd4ndy/status/1570141309947777025?s=20&t=Rj35P1…
You're so shameless it's
anon (not verified) Wed, 09/14/2022 - 13:43
In reply to Cyber Dandy and William Gillis by cyberdandy
You're so shameless it's disgusting. Are you sure you're not a millenial?
Yes, I am a millennial
cyberdandy Wed, 09/14/2022 - 13:53
In reply to You're so shameless it's by anon (not verified)
Yes, I am a millennial.
I fundamentally disagree with the things that you find disgusting and shameful, like creating content with people I don't agree with. Or for another example, I think it's disgusting and shameful for @news comment-section trolls to still be using the same, tired jokes for like 7-10 years now: Kevin Keating, William Gillis, Wayne Price, John Zerzan, Dr. Bones. It's a subtle way to indicate your own clout, that you're on the correct anti-celebrity side of a discourse hardly anyone cares about, and that you possess some sort of anarchist insight that means you feel comfortable condescending to these people ...anonymously. On the other hand, I think that even when I disagree with other anarchists, condescending dismissal and these kinds of trolling behaviors are a form of elitism and indicate a lack of concern with practicing anything I would want anarchist social life to be like.
Fuck off, Keating
anon (not verified) Wed, 09/14/2022 - 13:55
In reply to Yes, I am a millennial by cyberdandy
Fuck off, Keating
Hello fellow millenial brah,,
anon (not verified) Wed, 09/14/2022 - 13:57
In reply to Yes, I am a millennial by cyberdandy
Hello fellow millenial brah,,,,
If William Gillis doesn't agree to appearing might I suggest you interview Andy Ngo on your exceptionally original anarchist podcast?
Excelsior!
Andy Ngo
cyberdandy Wed, 09/14/2022 - 14:06
In reply to Hello fellow millenial brah,, by anon (not verified)
I don't know what I would talk to Andy Ngo about. William Gillis, the anarcho-transhumanist, actually does share some interests with me.
You both dislike antifa and
anon (not verified) Wed, 09/14/2022 - 14:17
In reply to Andy Ngo by cyberdandy
You both dislike antifa and both enjoy attention and butt stuff. Talk about that?
Antifa
cyberdandy Wed, 09/14/2022 - 14:20
In reply to You both dislike antifa and by anon (not verified)
Dang you're good at this. I'm tellin ya, you should come on the show!
The main thing I don't like about Antifa is when it involves Left Unity... most of it I'm fine with :)
Perhaps talk about your
anon (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 12:21
In reply to Andy Ngo by cyberdandy
Perhaps talk about your shared dislike for antifa and Andy being a threat to anarchist communities by providing kill lists to Atomwaffen. Conference in Willy Gilly for a ménage à trois.
Best Captcha: BAyDMT@s
I stand in critical
Never Anon (not verified) Wed, 09/14/2022 - 16:19
In reply to Yes, I am a millennial by cyberdandy
I stand in critical solidarity with Cyber Dandy against the troll(s) of Anarchist News.
@news trolls
cyberdandy Wed, 09/14/2022 - 16:25
In reply to I stand in critical by Never Anon (not verified)
Oh no no! I am not against them! 8ball and emile just set such a high bar for me that I’m forever spoiled.
yeah just look how good it
lumpy (not verified) Wed, 09/14/2022 - 19:09
In reply to @news trolls by cyberdandy
yeah just look how good it worked out for Emile.
my friend Karl will travel to spoil you if you're into it.
emile
cyberdandy Wed, 09/14/2022 - 20:01
In reply to yeah just look how good it by lumpy (not verified)
What do you mean, Lumpy? I haven’t seen emile on here in a long time but it looks like they are still writing.
CyberDON'T....
anon (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 04:58
In reply to emile by cyberdandy
Emile is only enjoyable as a memory of more glorious (?) days of Anews trolling. I don't want this thing back in the future, as it sits comfortably in the past. Do not summon the Dark Lord here.
Name dropping anews users of
anon (not verified) Wed, 09/14/2022 - 19:14
In reply to @news trolls by cyberdandy
Name dropping anews users of yore,,,,, trying "to indicate your own clout",,,,, "and that you possess some sort of anarchist insight" aren't you? Don't you see "these kinds of trolling behaviors are a form of elitism"?
Whjat tyhe fiuckion are yu io
8ball (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 02:54
In reply to @news trolls by cyberdandy
Whjat tyhe fiuckion are yu io fyuckinhg sayimng fgucktarfd Statefyukcing sgheepm, cyuuint!. ,
Ass weep liumpy fyckterd mioron fiucklyiu!
This Cyber Daddy character
anon (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 02:14
This Cyber Daddy character just loves exposing himself everywhere, I wonder how long until the inevitable fall from grace a la Doctor Bones?
He already has married afaik,
anon (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 05:02
In reply to This Cyber Daddy character by anon (not verified)
He already has married afaik, interviewed uncritically some ancap phonies and made an ad for a well-known Italian brand of soft drinks, if not other things. CD covered himself by protracted fall from grace, so nothing bad's left to happen! Brilliant ;-D
I think it's about time for
anon (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 05:36
I think it's about time for CD to.make a change to his approach.... Do a hotline during the interviews like @bang did in the past, where callers can address their issues directly with problematic speakers/authors like (eye) or the ancaps. CD would make a great moderator for this I think.
Anarkotopia
Anarkogardener (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 07:52
I'm glad there was a discussion about it. There are ways to get there. By organizing ourselves and invite people to land without charging rent so people are free to grow food, live off-grid from the electric and money systems, and cooperate to meet their needs together.
LANDBACK means FUCK OFF with
anon (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 10:02
In reply to Anarkotopia by Anarkogardener (not verified)
LANDBACK means FUCK OFF with your "inviting people to land without charging rent" organizer colonialist project. Whose land do you think you're inviting people to?
Landback…
cyberdandy Thu, 09/15/2022 - 10:05
In reply to LANDBACK means FUCK OFF with by anon (not verified)
Definitely a good point and one of the reasons I’m interested in communal resource sharing that isn’t based on land and/or housing. There are other good reasons too, but that’s a big one.
Best question *du jour*, my pony!
anon (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 12:53
In reply to LANDBACK means FUCK OFF with by anon (not verified)
What kind of position is this when someone invites people to a completely abstract piece of land property? Native people used to invite other to their village or the house where they lived... but to a land? What schizophrenia is this? Ah yes, Deleuze de-lease...
Is the "completely abstract
anon (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 13:09
In reply to Best question *du jour*, my pony! by anon (not verified)
Is the "completely abstract piece of land property" with you right now, brah? Does it tell you to do things that make you feel uncomfortable? Does it make you want to gorge yourself with dumpster poutine and deny the existence of people already existing on these lands before colonizers showed up and claimed them?
I think you stopped making
anon (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 15:58
In reply to Is the "completely abstract by anon (not verified)
I think you stopped making sense somewhere down the road. If you want to harm or make fun of someone here, you can't just skip Step 1 just coz you're too lazy or edgy, but if you're insane or mentally-challenged that's understandable but doesn't make it more legible, thank you for your tiiime.
Anarkotopia
cyberdandy Thu, 09/15/2022 - 10:10
In reply to Anarkotopia by Anarkogardener (not verified)
Besides the other comment I just made in response to anon regarding land, my other reasons for prioritizing non-land/housing commons projects is because there is so much that can be shared without trying to convince people to live together in the same location. I also think the apprehensions a lot of people have to collective living situations are fair, especially after all the cult shit since the back-to-the-landers of the 60’s.
FTFY - all the cult shit
anon (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 10:13
In reply to Anarkotopia by cyberdandy
FTFY - all the cult shit since *1492
The land isn't anyone's. To
Anarkogardener (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 11:44
The land isn't anyone's. To exist on the Earth, we do have to inhabit land. The cult stuff is demonization of groups of people living tribally. The media demonizes things on purpose to make the alternative. Call it what ypu want. Words. What exactly is meant? To what are you referring? What happened to the back to the landers? And whatever happened probably happened once and had other suspicious things that don't mean that humans cannot live together tribally as they naturally evolved to. Those who were here before didn't claim ownership of the land because they didn't have properties like that. The colonizers took it as property and excluded others. And the government sucks and forced them off land they were inhabiting.
Won't someone think of the
TranslationBot (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 11:54
In reply to The land isn't anyone's. To by Anarkogardener (not verified)
Won't someone think of the poor colonizers??
I'd demand to speak to your manager!
Still can't figure out how to
anon (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 11:56
In reply to The land isn't anyone's. To by Anarkogardener (not verified)
Still can't figure out how to thread your replies? ;o)
Hippy Cult Communes
cyberdandy Thu, 09/15/2022 - 11:59
In reply to The land isn't anyone's. To by Anarkogardener (not verified)
You are somewhat correct, that the cult stuff is used by mainstream media to demonize people who created intentional communities in the 60's and 70's. Two issues with focusing on that though are that first, there were a lot of cult leaders that took advantage of the back-to-the-land ethos of the times and second, if it there wasn't any truth to it the popularity of the myth means that a lot of people are still very apprehensive about collective living situations. So what I am getting at isn't what human beings are capable of, it's what modern urban humans have learned to fear along with their general lack of practice living with others collectively. I think the gap between how a lot of people have been socialized and what makes for successful communal living arrangements is pretty big and that there are much less demanding commons that we could be building without running head-first into those walls.
Here's an article I found form Rolling Stone on the 60's/70's stuff: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/cult-or-commune-h…
I didn't read it, but it looks like it has enough information in it to support what I said.
Thread your replies,
anon (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 12:01
In reply to Hippy Cult Communes by cyberdandy
Thread your replies, CyberDandy. You're blowing the whole thing and people might think you're talking to,,,,,,,,,,,,
Just playin brah. It was
anon (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 12:02
In reply to Thread your replies, by anon (not verified)
Just playin brah. It was threaded gud.
I dunno if that's the case in
anon (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 13:03
In reply to Hippy Cult Communes by cyberdandy
I dunno if that's the case in the US but in parts of Canada creating a religious body allows you to basically turn private land into a legally-backed commons, literally. You're also allowed to have a permanent "temple" that can be used for any purpose as well as taking tax-exempt donations. Not the most anarchist thing yet some very good option for anyone seeking to create something far better than a land project, in build a land trust.
Its Anarch 101 moron!
anon (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 13:44
In reply to Hippy Cult Communes by cyberdandy
Its Anarch 101 moron!
Property is theft. NOW READ SOME BOOKS! Learn about the nomadic consciousness of temporary zones of pleasure !
(I) & CD
@balm (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 15:38
i watched this and it is the first cd video i made it all the way through. i kept thinking they were going to mention bolo'bolo because (i)'s version of utopia sounds a lot like what pm wrote, well sort of ...
(i)'s is trying to be more rational, i think, and rationally is overrated imo.
it seems fair that both like the British @s too, which made me wonder if cd or (i) has read "Damned Fools in Utopia" by Nicolas Walter.
anyway, even though i disagree with a lot of this i do like the possibility of getting outside my bubble and hearing other povs.
@balm
cyberdandy Thu, 09/15/2022 - 16:28
I always forget about bolo’bolo. I have read it before, but for whatever reason it didn’t stick with me much. I also haven’t heard of Nicolas Walter or their book “Damned Fools in Utopia,” but I’ll check it out. Colin Ward is who guided me into anarchism and he is still one of my favorites. Eventually, when I get better at video essay formats, I’ll do at least one on his work.
It’s good to hear you made it through one! I’m still very new to making videos, so I consider that a win. Anything about this episode that made it more endurable?
i watch stuff on my phone so
@balm (not verified) Thu, 09/15/2022 - 16:48
In reply to @balm by cyberdandy
i watch stuff on my phone so you having ½ the screen filled with a website is, uh, difficult! anyway, this time you are interviewing (i) who i know & like so that makes it worth watching.
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